1.2 War Hero Gear on PTS - Now requires BM gear :)

If they remove expertise it won't be fair. People who raid will be the best geared players in the game and own your ***.

Honestly though, anyone that thinks gear is a deciding factor in this game obviously has zero clue what they are talking about. It does NOT take long to get full Centurion gear and that's all you need to compete against battlemasters. Sure in a tie breaker the BM will win but if you're half decent at the game then you will stand a chance against any battlemaster using Centurion gear.

Seriously, gear gap in this game is NOTHING like other mmo's. People just have it stuck in their head that when they get beat it's 100% because they are outgeared. It's basically an excuse for bad players that would have lost even if they were full BM gear against someone not even wearing any PVP gear.

Why don't we all wait and see what the daily/weekly rewards are before crying foul...maybe they give enough so the grind doesn't hit "ludacris" level.

Grind doesn't hit ludacris levels... you will have full war hero in a month or two. That is if you play 10 warzones a day, youll need a total of 500 games played for full war hero.

So when the real hardcore pvpers have full war hero sets, what will keep them from just joining unranked matches in that gear?

You can just leave the WZ since unranked matches don't put up a debuff!

A lot of misinformation on this thread.

Take a look at this video: http://youtu.be/-M68JYMKQZs

You can see exactly what each PvP vendor is selling in 1.2.

War Hero gear DOES NOT require Battlemaster. It requires Ranked Warzone commendations only. The "rated" version of War Hero (which has exactly the same stats as WH, but is a different colour) requires Ranked Warzone commendations PLUS the existing WH piece. I believe this last point is where the confusion over the Battlemaster requirement started.

There is no Centurion or Champion gear in 1.2. Both are replaced by a blue set called "Recruit" which is rank 128 (slightly more than current Centurion but slightly less than current Champion). This set is bought entirely with credits and has no Valor level requirement attached to it.

Battlemaster gear is bought entirely with Warzone commendations and also has it's valor rank 60 requirement removed.

Overall it's going to make PvP a much more level playing field, which has got to be a good thing. PvP shouldn't really be all about gear. Since War Hero isn't THAT much better than Battlemaster, and Battlemaster will be pretty easy to get hold of - I foresee much more balanced warzones ahead.

Now, if only they could fix Ilum...

Btw, existing Centurion and Champion commendations (if you have lots spare like me) can be used to buy green or blue Premium (or PvP crafting) boxes from the vendor. So they can finally stop gathering dust and be spent