1.2 War Hero Gear on PTS - Now requires BM gear :)

There's two sides of the spectrum here.

One wants gear easily accessible so that it's a competitive environment in rated warzones.


The other wants rated warzones to require BM gear so it remains a competitive place.

I agree with both. If they didn't have a gear requirement or gear wasn't easy to get but you could still queue, what would be the point? They would essentially just be random warzones that you get ranked and the best gear from.

I'm against a gear treadmill, and no, getting 2200 in World of Warcraft doesn't make you a good PVPer, that isn't even duelist on some BGs.

A good pvper is someone who doesn't need a gear disparity to feel better, they get the sense of accomplishment from merely defeating their opponents and knowing they really are better than them.

GW was the first "MMO" to understand what PVPers want, there is no set rules in what an MMO must entail, so anyone that removes the gear treadmill and carrot on a stick mentality will win the hearts of pvpers.

Bioware is heading in the right direction making gear more accessible, I just think since they allow solo queue, you should be required to have full Battlemaster gear before entering a ranked warzone or there really isn't a point in having them with the current system.

I don't see why it's obsolete. I think people are confused...or hell, maybe I am.

As I read it, nothing changes for non-ranked WZs. You will not be able to buy Champ or Centurian gear, but so what. If you have those now why would you want more? You enter non-ranked WZs and earn BM and War Hero gear to replace your current Champ and Centurian gear.

Then when you are geared you enter ranked WZ and buy Ranked War Hero gear...which is the same as War Hero but a different color.

Why did ClogMan say:
"1) Ditch all Champ + cent gear.
2) Buy a recruit PvP set for 500K."

Unless the stats are way better than Champion, which I can't imagine. So he's wrong or trolling.

Why do you think its going to be obsolete?

You will still have it and it will have same stats (except expertise may be boosted on it). Just because some gear will no longer be available, and other armor will become available does not reduce your ability to use what you have.

Did you miss the part where you can now get a full BM set faster than you can currently get a BM mainhand!?

This isn't my favorite move, but it's not a huge hurdle either.

This, on the other hand, isn't correct either. Current BM is only fractionally better than Champ, but with Bio effectively lifting the Expertise cap and doubling per-piece Expertise on BM, it will be significantly better than Champ (and, obviously, Recruit) once 1.2 hits.

that's assuming there would be no "PvP gear".

i see nothing wrong with tier 2 gear (as i see it called), being a reward from PvP...just remove the Expertise on NON-RANKED gear.

i.e. Columni = BM or champ gear.

your valor rank + ranked WZ valor would allow you access to expertise stat'd gear.

It's so easy to get BM rank and BM gear now. They made those changes last patch so people will be ready when 1.2 comes around. If you haven't been taking advantage of it, that's your fault. Plus, they'll make it even easier to get BM gear in 1.2. This really is a non-issue.

Can you do that? I wouldn't know. I always actively participate in every WZ that I play. You can cry and **** in your Huggies all you want. It affects me exactly ZERO!

This guy VASTLY prefers so much i pissed myself laughing.

You've never played an RPG before have you? It's the main point of MMORPGs because they consistently don't know how to make games to cater to people who just want to have fun.


RPGs have never been about gear grinding- sure, on occassion you have to do a slight grind for a level or money for gear in oldschool RPGs like the early final fantasy/dragonquest games. But now even games like those you generally get the gear/levels you need on the way and most decent players can bypass any sort of need to grind.

FPS, RTS and MOBA have all been making very popular, very fun pvp without a gear grind of significance.

People only play those kind of games for a few weeks though. MMOs have too much debt to cover for that lifecycle.

They have to keep people playing, but they also can't invent a new game every other month.