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Huttball.. do people think scoring gives you a reward or something?

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Huttball.. do people think scoring gives you a reward or something?

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Elmuerto
03.23.2012 , 08:06 AM | #51
We are indeed forgetting there is a world of difference between a game with vent and without vent. Using vent is precisely where PvP shines in the mmo world. I haven't got round to it because all my guildies have been 50 for yonks and I'm only a paltry 46 casual player. I've mentioned in Huttball - oh if only we had voice chat more than once.

Being able to type instructions in such a fast paced game is very limited, I try when I can but usually can't in time. Pass up - works the odd time. Hutts a pretty small playing area there's always some range attack coming at you.

And yes OP to date as far as medals are concerned there has been no real motivation other than the general intention to do the wz as it was designed to be done. I've topped the medals charts plenty when even getting stuffed 5/6 - 0. And that was without intentionally trying, others intentionally ignore the whole point of Huttball and just go after kills. This apparently will change next patch with something for scoring and rated.

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MartyrLXXVII
03.23.2012 , 08:11 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Arlanon View Post
Noob: "Pass me the ball so I can run ahead with it!"

Me: "No, you run on ahead so I can pass it to you."

Whose side are you on anyway? I'm not passing it backwards.
This.

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Inayat
03.23.2012 , 08:22 AM | #53
Best reward from scoring is the small dance emote you do after scoring.

Pisses off the opponents even more.
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Lexster
03.23.2012 , 08:25 AM | #54
While I try to pass, you have to keep in mind that not everyone deserves the ball. When you pass to someone who then runs the wrong way. . . . when you pass to someone that just sits in the same spot and looks for the next opponent.

Sure, some players are ballhogs, just like in real life. Some players are also so terrible it might be better to just hope you can solo the match.

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MartyrLXXVII
03.23.2012 , 08:33 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Lexster View Post
While I try to pass, you have to keep in mind that not everyone deserves the ball. When you pass to someone who then runs the wrong way. . . . when you pass to someone that just sits in the same spot and looks for the next opponent.

Sure, some players are ballhogs, just like in real life. Some players are also so terrible it might be better to just hope you can solo the match.
Not even just that, but you don't really want to pass to certain classes, say a commando unless they are near the goalline. You don't want to pass to a fresh 50 either no matter how good they are as they get dropped 2 sec after getting the ball. Nor pass to the only other guy in the middle of 6 enemies, it'll either be intercepted or they just burn him down too, better just bump it nowhere let it rest and the rest of your team should get it again, unless they are badies which isn't rare sadly.

There are a ton of tactical chooses to be made in hutball. But when it comes to passing, if you want to make yourself useful besides healing/guarding the carrier then get away from the enemy and get forward, past the fire or on the goalline whatever. Separation and advancement are the keys to a good passing game.

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JaddynnStarr
03.23.2012 , 08:47 AM | #56
several factors play into this.... first and foremost, if you dont play huttball ALOT... you dont have the pass button in an easy location to conveniently hit... and if its not convenient, you usually die trying to find it before you can ever pass the ball. Not making an excuse, just stating facts. Second, who doesnt want to be the one who scores the winnig goal? were you not ever a child and played a ball game and felt great catchingthe winning touchdown or hitting the gamewinning home run?

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signahead
03.23.2012 , 09:09 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by JaddynnStarr View Post
several factors play into this.... first and foremost, if you dont play huttball ALOT... you dont have the pass button in an easy location to conveniently hit... and if its not convenient, you usually die trying to find it before you can ever pass the ball. Not making an excuse, just stating facts.
This is a good point.

My first few Huttball games, I though that passing was a targeted ability, so I would select my target, mash "B" (my hotkey for passing the ball. "B for ball" seemed like a good way to remember it), and swear prodigiously at my screen when nothing happened.

Even after I figured it out, it was still a challenge. This was before my Commando got Kolto Bomb, so I had a grand total of one other ranged AOE, Mortar Barrage, which I rarely used in PvP. So I wasn't just learning how to pass the ball, I also had to learn how to use the AoE targeting system in the fast-paced, constantly moving, frequently focus-firing or stun-locking, domain of PvP. If you're new to PvP, especially if you're not used to being focused fired, the situation's a little overwhelming. Panic-inducing, even. Not a great place to learn a new skill.

I think it took at least a week before I could pass the Huttball proficiently. And I still occasionally have trouble, especially when I try to pass from a lower level to a higher one, or from a level surface to a ramp that's sloping away from me (situations that require setting the targeting reticle on the very edge of your target surface).

So even though it's frustrating when a teammate doesn't make an obviously helpful pass, it doesn't upset me, especially if I suspect he or she is still learning the game.
This is my first visit to the Galaxy of Terror, and I'd like it to be a pleasant one.

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ilovethepink
03.23.2012 , 09:12 AM | #58
If you have the ball with <30% health, and you refuse to pass to someone right next to you.

You're stupid.

If you refuse to pass, when someone is a better suited class.

You're stupid

When you don't pass when you're still auto running forwards.

You're stupid.

I can go on, and most end with the same thing. Alot of BC'ers in Huttball are just terrible, I've seen Ops try to ball run when I've been right next to them on my Assassin (Sprint over active fire(From the top catwalk) and Shroud over the line), I've seen Tanks guard a DPS, when carrying, instead of Guarding them while they carry. I've seen a level 14 hero want to run the ball, straight into fire no less, instead of passing to me at the ledge ahead in perfect los.

Oh and having read a post


Quote: Originally Posted by signahead View Post
mash "B" (my hotkey for passing the ball. "B for ball" seemed like a good way to remember it)
I use X, as in X marks the spot where it lands ;p
Quote: Originally Posted by Gonewild View Post
Bioware kindly restrain the crack head making these decisions, and return the monkey. The monkey's decisions were more random, but at least they weren't as bad.

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MartyrLXXVII
03.23.2012 , 09:15 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by ilovethepink View Post
If you have the ball with <30% health, and you refuse to pass to someone right next to you.

You're stupid.

If you refuse to pass, when someone is a better suited class.

You're stupid

When you don't pass when you're still auto running forwards.

You're stupid.

I can go on, and most end with the same thing. Alot of BC'ers in Huttball are just terrible, I've seen Ops try to ball run when I've been right next to them on my Assassin (Sprint over active fire(From the top catwalk) and Shroud over the line), I've seen Tanks guard a DPS, when carrying, instead of Guarding them while they carry. I've seen a level 14 hero want to run the ball, straight into fire no less, instead of passing to me at the ledge ahead in perfect los.
Yes yes, hutball has the biggest L2P curve in the game and people just don't care. Best you can do is pay close attention to those that know what they are doing and work with them when your grouped up.

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jaakkeli
03.23.2012 , 09:26 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Feztonio View Post
not everyone is as awsome as you are. also cannot pass when CC'd or stun locked.
You can almost always pass when "stun locked". Obviously not when in a stun but between stuns. Just spam your pass hotkey and your mouse button frantically and you almost always get the pass off between ccs.

This is one of the reasons why clickers really suck. I tried playing PvP with a mate who clicks and... it's really frustrating when he can't do passes that are easy for anyone who actually keybinds throw the ball.