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1.2 War Hero Gear on PTS - Now requires BM gear :)

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1.2 War Hero Gear on PTS - Now requires BM gear :)

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Khoraji
03.23.2012 , 08:28 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by CapuchinSeven View Post
My worry is that you trade BM gear in for WH, I'm sort of wondering how they actually decide if it's a piece of BM gear for trade in, i.e. does it have to have all the mods that it came with or can we trade in the BM item we have with the changed mods...
Yea i am a bit worried as well. so much so that I wont be trading out enhancments until 1.2 lol. But I would imagine BW would make the turn-in for WH based purely off of the actualy piece of gear. It would probably work with no mods...at least thats the only way that makes sense to me.

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ataborik
03.23.2012 , 08:29 AM | #72
My hope was that the game will be about skill and not about gear. Right now I know that it will be just gear grind and nothing else:-(

Really sad because it looks so promising and I really thing that I will play it for long time

There was voices that it will be less gear dependent etc and they made it even more gear dependent? So for new 50 the game will be absolutely unplayable and it wont be fun event for WH (maybe for some of them).

The sad is that even WH will join unrated WZ which will make it unplayable, if they cannot access unrated WZ based on item level rating or something like this... it will be fine

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CaptainInsano
03.23.2012 , 08:32 AM | #73
This is a big kick in the nuts to Operative/Scoundrel players. So not only do they have to reroll, they have to grind another BM set before they can compete in Ranked with their friends. I think most will just quit.

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AAmedeo
03.23.2012 , 08:33 AM | #74
I have all Champ gear (except Main Hand Blaster). I see some saying Champ gear is useless. Its the best I have, and I'm at 59.5 Valor, so I might have some BM before 1.2 goes live.

But why are people sayin Champ is useless - its not as good, but useless?

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Nicain
03.23.2012 , 08:34 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by ClogMan View Post
This is just LOL.

So as a champion geared player, in 1.2 this is what i will have to do, to be a tad more usefull then a wet noodle in PvP, after 1.2 patch:

1) Ditch all Champ + cent gear.
2) Buy a recruit PvP set for 500K.
3) Play some non rated warzone to get 417 warzone comms.
4) Spend saved warzone comms (max 1333 after being robbed in the merc. comms conversion) + 417 = 1750 on a BM mainhand weapon.
5) Play non rated warsones for BM gear.
6) a month later, start playing rated warzones to replace BM gear for war hero gear

Thats just great....
You'll still be a wet noodle. You have a lot of quit in you. Gear isn't the decider, it's basically a tie breaker. If you're getting rolled now, you'll get rolled in equal gear. You've mentally removed yourself from PVP because you have the 'i don't have the gear I can't win' thought process, so you haven't engaged while everyone else is, and getting better at pvp.

So the real reason you lack PVP skills, is because you've mentally checked out from it.

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fantomjchx
03.23.2012 , 08:39 AM | #76
O my God !

This is possibly best stuff u could do bioware,keep on good job and dont let people everything for free!

Yes you will have to obtain full BM gear BECAUSE I did same,yeah it takes some times ofcourse but if u want IT u will have to play for it (: No work - No money, bb

and once again GJ Bioware

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fantomjchx
03.23.2012 , 08:46 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Broom View Post
I'm a hardcore PVPer in full BM gear (PRE free valor for all patch). And I think it's a hideously bad idea. AS A PVPER I want PEOPLE to fight, and I VASTLY prefer a system where full participation in PVP isn't gated by gear. I'm also 100% certain that the fact some people have the time to mindlessly 'grind' hundreds of hours for gear does not make those people better PVPers, or that it makes PVP more enjoyable.
Please,do us a favour ( us I mean real pvpers who are now 70+ valor ),give us a break and **** from forum if ur already cancelled sub and want everything fr free...just leave it (:

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Enroir
03.23.2012 , 08:50 AM | #78
This is great news. Thanks BioWare for all your hard work!

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Nicain
03.23.2012 , 08:50 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Proppa View Post
Yup, I want to play Ranked because it's competative PVP. If I have to spend lots of time "gear grinding" to get the stuff.... well, that isn't competative PvP and thus rather dull.
What's dull is counter strike, or call of duty games where its clone a vs clone b.

Basically the pvp you want is nude pvp with a rusty dagger, and you think that's skill. It's not. In the 'even gear' situation OTHER things come into play, like who gets the first hit. If two even skilled Marauders fight, the one who gets the first force leap in will have the advantage.

So did getting that first force leap in mean you're more skilled? Nope it means you were lucky to see him before he saw you. Maybe you sat around on a cliff above a pass for an hour waiting for someone, does that mean you're more skilled? No it means you have the time to do nothing and wait to get that first hit, but to you, you’d tell the story in a way where you stalked your prey for an hour before going in for a swift skillful kill! All you did is gank a guy from the rocks brah -_0.

You want pvp dumbed down to that level, where you have to think the least to overcome your opponent.

Gearless pvp turns pvp into a coin flip or a rocks paper scissors game, where the first move or two sets the tone for the fight. Whereas gear and stat scales, allow for more robust pvp that isn’t dictated at the opening move.

I know your type of player doesn’t get this, as you’re use to “I got my super cool first move off and they still beat me, if they didn’t have gear I’d have won that!” Not that you screwed up because you got over zealous, it’s because of gear.

Anyone who has pvp’d over any significant period understands my point and why ‘DCUOnline’ style PVP gets old quick. Don't be made, learn to play.

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highstandard
03.23.2012 , 08:52 AM | #80
Well, time to stop leveling all alts...
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