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1.2 War Hero Gear on PTS - Now requires BM gear :)

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1.2 War Hero Gear on PTS - Now requires BM gear :)

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Chalisar
03.23.2012 , 07:38 AM | #61
it's amazing to me how many people just want things handed to them these days in MMO's. it's also amazing to me that people don't realize how EASY it is to obtain champion gear. the jump to BM gear from champion is not that great statistically speaking. i know some people who use champion OVER BM gear because it suits them better stat wise(more crit, power etc). if you're in full champion gear and you lose to someone with some BM pieces it's NOT because of those BM pieces of gear it's because you got outplayed. the chances of your opponent(s) winning BECAUSE of the minor advantage they may have over you in stats are small. you're delusional or just looking for excuses if you think that's why you lost/died. these same people who cry and whine about having to put in time to get the best gear are still going to suck once they finally obtain it plain and simple. they will never be on par.

if you don't even have full champion gear yet then don't talk to me we have nothing in common.
Chal Quickbeam, 50 Jedi Knight Guardian <Balance> - From The Deadweight and now Prophecy of the Five.

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Khoraji
03.23.2012 , 07:42 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by CapuchinSeven View Post
I'm kinda unsure now, it looks like what they've said is "if you modded your gear then the gear will stay modded with what you changed". I don't know if this means that changes to expertise will still change, I'd be pretty miffed if it wasn't.

I'm getting sick of half answers.
From what I understand. Expertise stat is on the "armoring", which previously could not be removed.

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prodigyqnz
03.23.2012 , 07:48 AM | #63
I have 4 level 50's 2 fully battlemaster geared 2 on the way. 100% custom mods setup. People are complaining about getting 1 set of BM how about the many extra pieces of both bm and champ some people had to earn to gear out the toons properly cuz the as is sets are trash. Quite frankly i am tired of grinding for gear. I would rather spend time pvp'ing maybe looking for any possible powerup trinkets or crafting resources to make your pvp gear that they could have added to the game but didnt. Gear grind is stupid. Especially since you cant trade it to any of your other characters so basically once you waste time endlessly on one you have to rinse and repeat on the others.. Have 4 level 50's at this present moment i dread the thought of having to start all over 4 more times. All this talk of powering up crewskills and such and they are still making it so that means **** all and forcing more grinding. I don't care if new players get what i worked for in the end when comes down to a fight the true Champion/BattleMaster/War-Hero or whatever you want to call yourself will be standing over the corpses.
If no mistake have you made, yet losing you are.. a different game you should play... --Yoda
Prophecy | Pröphet | Profit | Professìonal etc... 20x55's and bored...
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Ybini
03.23.2012 , 07:51 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by grintar View Post
The gear difference in the beginning will not mean that much. However, as the ratings sort them selves out, you will notice the gear difference. Meaning you have about 2 weeks once 1.2 goes live to get geared. If you are not geared by then and you have been doing well you will be facing people that severely out gear you. You will then get stomped until you reach a rating where you can win with your current gear set.
Translation is, its much like the current state of PVP as it is now.

For some reason I thought they were going to do the ranked PVP differently. Basically its just telling everone that already PVP'd start over the rules are essentially the same and in the end the best grinder (ie whoever has the most free time) wins.

I was thinking they were going to do ranked with static gear so that everyone has the same gear so if you lose, its not the gear, its you.

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Ziegler
03.23.2012 , 08:00 AM | #65
Good to know. I really didnt want to resub, and BW has done all in their power to encourage I leave.


Enjoy it guys and gals. Onto the next MMO.
In the dusts of hell Lurked the blackest of hates, For he who eats fear awaits you
EALouse was right.

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VincentWolf
03.23.2012 , 08:00 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by RavenBB View Post
To all GIVE ME THE SAME GEAR AS A TRUE PVP HARDCORE GRINDER:

Do you really think that you deserve the same PvP gear after playing a total of 300WZ as someone with valor 75 who played 3000?

I am a rank 70 on my ex main, FULL bm which I grinded for month or so and I do, in fact, think that everyone should get highest tier pvp gear very fast. Maximum month. This lets new players get into the game fast without worrying about ranks/grind. And it also gives truly pro pvpers a challenge, which, as a true pvpers, you'd only welcome. Right? RIGHT?

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SlowbrN
03.23.2012 , 08:21 AM | #67
Gear should matter. Time spent preparing for success always matters. You cannot get off your couch and show up the olympics and think you should have a 'fair chance' at winning...and you can't show up to a gunfight with a knife.

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CapuchinSeven
03.23.2012 , 08:23 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Khoraji View Post
From what I understand. Expertise stat is on the "armoring", which previously could not be removed.
My worry is that you trade BM gear in for WH, I'm sort of wondering how they actually decide if it's a piece of BM gear for trade in, i.e. does it have to have all the mods that it came with or can we trade in the BM item we have with the changed mods...
I know chop-knees.

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Solonius
03.23.2012 , 08:25 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by CapuchinSeven View Post
My worry is that you trade BM gear in for WH, I'm sort of wondering how they actually decide if it's a piece of BM gear for trade in, i.e. does it have to have all the mods that it came with or can we trade in the BM item we have with the changed mods...
It SHOULD just go by the name of the item you are trading in, if they make it so you can't trade in BM items because you remodded them, then that is a serious epic fail on their part considering how royally they messed up modding the gear in the first place for some classes.

If anyone has any insight into this, please share. Thanks.
Drayven the Unyielding - 50 Guardian - Ebon Hawk

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pogmahone
03.23.2012 , 08:26 AM | #70
They add this yesterday on the PTS



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High-level PvP Daily and Weekly missions now reward a combination of Warzone and Ranked Warzone Commendations.