Why the proposed 1.2 Pyrotech changes are poorly thought out

Wheem you make some good points. The spec you mention is Carolina Parakeet, I believe, and did indeed revolve around the Tank cell and the DPS spec. However, in 1.2, that spec will be as extinct as the bird for which it was named. Completely gone. And not because of the change we are discussing here. Please reread the OP, and read the proposed 1.2 changes. I think you will be surprised.

As a Powertech Pyro, I support this thread.

yes, i can see how starting every fight in melee range could be a handicap...............

Lu_Bei, I am waiting to hear a response to my offer. In order to simplify, I will paste what I wrote on the previous page:

*edit* To be fair, I don't truly have a dog in this fight. I have already respecced my (lvl 50, valor 61) Vanguard for Tactics (AP), and am finding it more in tune with my playstyle in any case.

Why is this guy still here?

Its not that I disagree with the OP's facts, I just don't see how it makes that big of a difference. You guys talked about people hitting 500k and 700k damage in a WZ, but usually its nothing near that. In all the 50 WZs I get into, it ranges from the 60k-330k range, with tanks and healers at the bottom and BH/Troopers at the top, along with the odd sorc. Reducing top tier damage isn't going to change much. A lot of times, games wind down to who has the most powerful DPSers in a game where everyone has 17-20k HP. Maybe nerfing the high end DPS will make winning less dependent on who has the best bounty hunters.

This deserves some explanaition, I believe. tactics is the adv. proto, right? How do you manage to get usefull dmg out of this? I tested it last week, soley because of the proposed pyro-nerf. And it was awfull!

I had alot of trouble killing targets, actually to the point I believe a nerfed pyro will have more killing capacity. So how do you manage to come by?

I'm very sorry to tell you this man, but you have nothing to contribute to this thread. I don't mean to come off as an ***, and I think you would agree that I have been fairly reasonable, but the indisputable fact (and, if you agree with the OP's facts as you claim, you don't dispute this fact either) is that this spec will not be viable if the changes are implemented as stated. Not only will this spec's damage be tuned down, which it needed, but its resource management will be borked as well.

Perhaps a resource management system that was NOT directly tied into the overpowered burst would be a better fix. Carolina Parakeet spec is dead, so you will not see any Pyros guarding anymore. If you look at the charts released after the guild summit, about 3% of players play this Advanced Class, let alone this spec. It is beyond me why BW would want to make such a class LESS appealing.

So I can see where the OP is coming from but....

...here's my perspective. I'm a Merc Pyro. Power Shot is physically unusable in combat. It's 25 heat cost and end of cast effect means that half of all cast attempts wind up doing no damage and simply increasing your heat stack. Well OK, I may use it once or twice in a long match. Does that make me an incompetent Merc Pyro? Well I'm Valor 81 and I scored over 600K damage in a wz today with the next highest person scoring 280K. So no, I don't think I'm incompetent. Oh, and I didn't use PS a single time that match.

So what I'm basically saying is that I live my PvP life with RS being proc'ed only once every 15 seconds via Unload. Not 6. Not 4.5, as some are requesting. Once every 15 seconds. IF it procs. If it doesn't, well, time for a 30 second wait. I thought about the whole concept of getting a free RS 250% as often as I currently do. I thought about being able to use an instant cast ability to proc my RS, instead of standing there like a dope begging for someone to interrupt my Unload while I pray I will be able to get off a RS. I thought, dayum, that must be a pretty good life! I thought all these things because, well you see, I use Rapid Shots a lot (over 50% of my attacks) and so I get a lot of time to ponder life's intricacies.

Here are some other things to ponder:

-If a PT Pyro fails to get a RS proc, he simply hits FB again. If a Merc Pyro fails to get a RS proc then it is truely a fail.

-PT Pyro's RS ignores 75% of armor. Merc Pyro's RS ignores 15% of armor.

- PT Pyro has an ability with a 100% chance to put a burn mark on the target, prepping it for RS. That ability costs 16 heat and conveniently happens to be the same ability that procs RS. Merc Pyro has an ability with a 100% chance to put a burn mark on the target, prepping it for RS. It costs 25 heat and is a different ability than the one that procs RS, thus meaning the Merc Pyro generates more heat while being slower to proc RS.

So I get it that you don't like the PPA nerf. But you are still getting your Superheated Rail twice as often as a Merc Pyro. It's a bit tacky to complain about it.

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Huttball: Im a pretty damn good ball carrier, and I have a shorter cooldown on my hostile pull.

Voidstar: With the buffed Pulse Cannon and my cooldowns popped, I can spread 30+k worth of damage in 3 seconds. Granted, it is spread over several targets, but if you have never seen a healer panic, it is quite funny.

Alderaan: with a faster riotstrike, I can lock down 1 or 2 healers, and make 3+ dps focus fire me down. With all that time, my team can usually either cap the node, or kill a few of their team.

I cant 1v1 worth crap, but Im a damn good team player.

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