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1.2 Hard Mode loot. Why raid when you can just run dailies?

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1.2 Hard Mode loot. Why raid when you can just run dailies?
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Master-Nala
03.20.2012 , 03:19 PM | #181
The new Corellia daily quests award Daily Commendations. The Mission Support Vendors have a new suit of gear for 200 commendations that it says, needs to be assembled.

There are new relics on the vendor for 200 daily commendations. There is no indication that you get Black Hole Commendations. I am working on my PTS character hard, but I've been to the Black Hole and I've not seen any of this 146 rating armor.

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DustomaticGXC
03.20.2012 , 03:27 PM | #182
To do any content, you need a certain amount of stats from gear. Once you have the stats to do the content available to you, there's literally zero benefit to raising your stats outside of "hey, I have higher stats now."

If you never do Operations, why would you need Operation-level stats on your gear?
Don't act like you didn't see this coming.

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Sir-Phobos
03.20.2012 , 03:27 PM | #183
Because grinding dailies is about the most unfun task ever to exist in an MMO since the days of camping a rare spawn for 24 hours straight, and raiding is fun. Some people play to have fun rather than just to get gear.

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Master-Nala
03.20.2012 , 03:45 PM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by DustomaticGXC View Post
If you never do Operations, why would you need Operation-level stats on your gear?
Need is irrelevant. You don't 'need' operations stats on your gear either. You don't 'need' gear. The gear is a reward. If MMORPGs have a basis for achievement, it is making your character stronger. If that's one of the primary goals, then it doesn't matter whether you 'need' stronger gear or not.

The devs could raise the damage/defense of daily quest NPCs to such an extent that Operation level stats would be needed. If that came to pass then would you still have any basis for your objection? Normal mode operations are not difficult. You don't 'need' operation rewards to do them. Of course, you don't because then no one could do them without ops gear, which is a vicious cycle.

There is no argument based in logic for either side's position. It all comes down to what content you wish to reward. Raid and group content are rewarded more in most games to encourage social play, not necessarily because it's more difficult.

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revcrisis
03.20.2012 , 03:55 PM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by Master-Nala View Post
The new Corellia daily quests award Daily Commendations. The Mission Support Vendors have a new suit of gear for 200 commendations that it says, needs to be assembled.

There are new relics on the vendor for 200 daily commendations. There is no indication that you get Black Hole Commendations. I am working on my PTS character hard, but I've been to the Black Hole and I've not seen any of this 146 rating armor.
Can you clarify on the new suit of gear for 200 daily commendations? What level and can it be used for 1 piece on the right side of your character? Remember guys, Bioware never said Corellia Dailys give Blackhole Commendations. They said that Blackhole Comms are awarded via KP NM. From my research, it seems that Corella only awards daily comms, but new gear has been added to the Mission Support Vendors which you can buy via the daily comms. What level gear this might be, we don't know yet. I would venture to say it may be Rakata level. The new Blackhole tier will be exclusively gained from comms via KP NM and possibly the new raid. The new raid tier will be gained exclusively through the new raid.

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Iwipe
03.20.2012 , 05:25 PM | #186
Hi, I can confirm that the new solo Corellia dailies does not give Black Hole Commendations but rather just plain daily commendations. The heroic quest was reported to drop 6 black hole commendations but its on a weekly reset.

The 200 commendation construction kit is for the legacy armor, low level stuff.

http://dulfy.net/2012/03/18/legacy-vendor-in-1-2/

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krinaman
03.20.2012 , 07:06 PM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Gavin_Darkl View Post
Raiding is Competitive always has been since EQ. If you did not down the boss you do not get the gear. Why should you be GIVEN the gear for not killing the boss? Sounds like Welfare to me. Why because you did not EARN a dam thing. Just like if you want to win a bowling Trophy, if you dont join a bowling league/team and bowl you have no right to the trophy.
Nobody is asking for the gear to be given to them. They are asking for other ways to earn better gear that don't envolve raiding. Even if that method requires more work than the raids.

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Master-Nala
03.20.2012 , 07:28 PM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by Iwipe View Post
Hi, I can confirm that the new solo Corellia dailies does not give Black Hole Commendations but rather just plain daily commendations. The heroic quest was reported to drop 6 black hole commendations but its on a weekly reset.

The 200 commendation construction kit is for the legacy armor, low level stuff.

http://dulfy.net/2012/03/18/legacy-vendor-in-1-2/
I am always amazed at MMORPG player's ability to argue for 20 pages over a misunderstanding!

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Gavin_Darkl
03.20.2012 , 08:15 PM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by krinaman View Post
Nobody is asking for the gear to be given to them. They are asking for other ways to earn better gear that don't envolve raiding. Even if that method requires more work than the raids.
If you dont raid you did not earn the loot, There for you are asking for it to be handed to you.

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AHierophant
03.20.2012 , 08:35 PM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by Gavin_Darkl View Post
If Bioware does there were people can just go do quest for Raid Gear people will quit. I know once my guild read this they all made the choice that they will cancel subscriptions. Thats over 60 people right now, I also spoke a handful other raiding guilds a few that are near member cap. All their members too were debating to cancel their subs.

People that came here to RAID do not care to see people who DO NOT RAID in RAID GEAR. Go Raid if you want the gear its that simple.

If you want SOLO gear ask for Gear that is purple Has Endurance, your Primary Stat, and Presence. You do not need any other stats like Crit, or Hit, or any other stat that makes you better. Have 10000 Presence that makes your companion better, I do not care. You do not need to be top DPS, or Healer, or Tank you are not playing with other people.

People raid to make themselves better with gear and as a player. This is not done SOLO. Solo Players can cry all they want about wanting RAID GEAR, they do not deserve it and have not earned it by SOLO Content. Its RAID GEAR for a reason. PEOPLE RAID FOR IT, NOT SOLO!
Didn't bother to be accurate. No surprise. Guess you need to wear a shirt with Accuracy stenciled on it if you want to be factual and post something other than hyperbole.

You don't get to say things like "people raid to make themselves better with gear" since you haven't asked every raider why they raid. You also don't get to construct strawmans like the whole "solo players are responsible for this mess (that isn't a mess at all) because they want free, undeserved raid gear" when there is absolutely zero evidence this was done to placate solo or non-raider players.

According to an earlier post (one you skipped over reading in your rush to spout off) that I fact checked, the Commendations in question appear to be dropped from mobs in raids.
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