p2p vs f2p

No, too expensive. I remember dropping 100 bucks on Maplestory in a week.

It depends on the implementation. The only big game that's gone F2P that I have experience with LOTRO, and to me it completely ruined it. Me and my fiancee both became lifers ($200 lifetime subscription) after playing it for about six months we enjoyed it so much...and haven't played it since it went F2P and became a pay-to-win system.

I'm okay with selling unlockable (balanced) classes and the like, cosmetics and fluff...stuff that really doesn't affect game balance. But LOTRO went overboard, skewing the game to those with enough money to buy special megapotions, permanent stat boosts, horses that go faster... If people wanted it, and LOTRO could monetize it - they did. The loading screens became advertisements (and oddly, loading time increased about 10x at the same time...), seasonal festivals became grind-fests because they would then sell all the festival loot in the store, the list just goes on and on.

My personal favorite was a special mount with a really low drop chance in their Halloween haunted house. They laid it on heavy how awesome and unique this horse was, and you better make sure you do your dailies to have a chance at it, because once the Festival was over, the horse would be gone for another year. Maybe...a week after the festival ended, they were selling "FOR A VERY LIMITED TIME!" in the store.

And while it sounds like I'm ranting, I'm not really. I've moved on from LOTRO and don't intend to look back. But that is my experience with F2P, and to me it completely ruined the entire game to the point where we walked away from about $800 worth of lifetime subs, expansions packs, etc.

tl;dr- Done right, where game balance is preserved between the haves and have nots and all that's sold is fluff, expansions, areas I would still play if it went F2P. If it went the way of monetizing every little thing, I definitely wouldn't.

No...I played EQIIX and I realized very quickly how much more you pay using the F2P model. It's just an illusion tons of people fall into since you are technically not obligated to pay per month.


Subscription based MMO's give the best value of entertainment for your dollar.

F2P is mostly not F2P. Rather, it's a more expensive model of PAY 2 WIN. Just gimme the balanced sub.

lol F2P

good one

No I would not.

Would drop it like a hot rock if it went Free 2 Play.

Remember, nothing is free. Nothing.

LOTR online. F2P and a horrible interpretation of the brilliant books and films.

I hope to god a studio picks it up and makes a p2p one and makes it worth playing. I can dream can't i...

This is mainly what puts me off f2p.

Many people say this should be f2p, but hell if it was we wouldn't have patch 1.2 etc and hell given all the noobs and trolling 50 year olds with no lives who think they know the ins and outs of a gaming studio, bioware has done a bloody good job so far and i have high hopes for what they bring to the table in the future.

Absolutely, because if you understand payment models, they are exactly the same.

I would be happy if SWTOR would become f2p (at least if they do it reasonable and don't turn it into a pay to win game), because then more of my friends would play (players are also content!) while currently many have already stopped playing, since the game is not worth the 15 bucks a month in their eyes.