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Altaira
03.20.2012 , 01:51 PM | #951
Quote: Originally Posted by Redmarx View Post
Again lots of key abilities are OFF the GCD (in fact, the most extremely time-sensitive ones are) meaning you can (and should) be activating them at the same time as other abilities, and need to do so in a fraction of a second to maximise their use.

For a clicker, it means he has to be able to click 2-3 things at the same time with 1 cursor - ie: impossible.

Clickers make horrible PVPers because they cannot clutch interrupt, cannot targetswitch, cannot preposition target reticles and cannot burst multiple cooldowns at the same time the way keybinders can.

Made it simpler for you to understand I hope.
I don't understand.

Oh, btw I actually have two cursors and dual wield mice. Only when im not using my keybind DDR floor mat, of course.

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TheNotorius
03.20.2012 , 01:54 PM | #952
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
LOL I know.. I’m trying to get them to open their closed eyes just a tiny little bit.... it is a worthless effort, they are incapable of comprehending it
At the beginning I was with you, because (even as keybinder) I don't like how others want to prove their method is better.

But...you are not willing to accept facts and opinions from a neutral position, and it seems you are doing your own crusade too, to defend a play style blindly (I loled at the keyboard delay).

On topic: Pro gamers don't click or keybind
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Dayln
03.20.2012 , 01:55 PM | #953
I don’t think I can make it simple enough for you to understand,

I get it, that you cannot comprehend it

You are just going to spend the rest of your life dumbfounded that some folks ( not me ) that are clickers will be wonderfully successful in this game, will, and probably already have defeated you in PVP

Not everyone is the same, use what works best for you, and ignore those that have religious feelings about the specific method they personally use.

It will be a religious mystery to you... I tried to help, but you are not going to comprehend it.
I have a bad feeling about this

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Galbatorrix
03.20.2012 , 01:55 PM | #954
Quote: Originally Posted by Redmarx View Post
The defenders of clicking are basically saying that typing long documents using a mouse to click a virtual keyboard can be as fast as touch typing.

You're wrong.

Clickers are slow.

If they don't realise they're slow, it means they're so bad they can't even comprehend how bad they are.

Bad analogy. If you hit a key and I click said document and each of us have to wait 1 second before the keyboard will register a new key/click, I could type the document just as fast as you.

Again, the game doesn't respond as quickly as you hit your keys. There's a GCD.

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byteresistor
03.20.2012 , 01:56 PM | #955
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
Not everyone is the same.
Again, this is not a philosophical discussion where there is no right answer. Human anatomy is universal, everyone ARE the same... more or less. The only exceptions are people with physical or mental deficiencies which might make them completely unable to even consider the use of keybinds. For them clicking works better, because they don't have the luxury of choosing between two options, they're stuck with one.

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Krazed
03.20.2012 , 01:57 PM | #956
Quote: Originally Posted by Redmarx View Post
The defenders of clicking are basically saying that typing long documents using a mouse to click a virtual keyboard can be as fast as touch typing.

You're wrong.

Clickers are slow.

If they don't realise they're slow, it means they're so bad they can't even comprehend how bad they are.
Not true I type very fast with my on-screen keyboard. Insulting a person doesn't make you right.

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Redmarx
03.20.2012 , 01:57 PM | #957
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Bad analogy. If you hit a key and I click said document and each of us have to wait 1 second before the keyboard will register a new key/click, I could type the document just as fast as you.

Again, the game doesn't respond as quickly as you hit your keys. There's a GCD.
Again... lots of abilities are off the GCD, especially the most time-sensitive ones.

Prepositioning target reticles, tracking a target with mousehover for a switch while still dpsing the primary, etc etc all these things a clicker cannot do.

Quote: Originally Posted by Krazed View Post
Not true I type very fast with my on-screen keyboard. Insulting a person doesn't make you right.
You clicking an on-screen keyboard vs a touch typist, he will type faster than you. Guaranteed.

Just as a sidenote, the fastest touch typist can hit a speed of 260 words per minute sustained over 50 minutes. You're saying you can match that with clicking an onscreen keyboard?

Stop talking nonsense to support an untenable position.

Clickers are slow for very obvious reasons.

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Krazed
03.20.2012 , 02:00 PM | #958
Quote: Originally Posted by Redmarx View Post
Again... lots of abilities are off the GCD, especially the most time-sensitive ones.

Prepositioning target reticles, tracking a target with mousehover for a switch while still dpsing the primary, etc etc all these things a clicker cannot do.
I can and do. Guess I'm not human.

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Dayln
03.20.2012 , 02:04 PM | #959
Quote: Originally Posted by byteresistor View Post
Again, this is not a philosophical discussion where there is no right answer. Human anatomy is universal, everyone ARE the same... more or less. The only exceptions are people with physical or mental deficiencies which might make them completely unable to even consider the use of keybinds. For them clicking works better, because they don't have the luxury of choosing between two options, they're stuck with one.
You are locked into the physical, it is also how different minds work.

You aren’t going to get it, you should probably stop trying to understand it.

It will just be a mystery to you that some folks can be as successful as you are... and they happen to be clickers
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Redmarx
03.20.2012 , 02:08 PM | #960
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
It will just be a mystery to you that some folks can be as successful as you are... and they happen to be clickers
Except they can't. And they aren't.

Only clickers believe this utter nonsense that they can perform as well as a keybinder. They simply cannot.

It's the first thing one tells to someone who wants to get good at PVP. Keybind your ****. Stop being bad and not realising it.