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Redmarx
03.20.2012 , 01:34 PM | #941
The defenders of clicking are basically saying that typing long documents using a mouse to click a virtual keyboard can be as fast as touch typing.

You're wrong.

Clickers are slow.

If they don't realise they're slow, it means they're so bad they can't even comprehend how bad they are.

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Dayln
03.20.2012 , 01:35 PM | #942
Quote: Originally Posted by byteresistor View Post
I'm sure it wasn't the goal in any other MMOrpg with hotbars either, but the fact that it has hotbars, along with other similar game machanics like in those other games and the way the human body works, the difference always ends up being there in this genre.

And I take back what I said about five fingers vs. one mouse cursor earlier, because actually I can have ten fingers at my disposal given the right mouse. There is just no way you can click as fast with a mouse cursor alone, and that doesn't even include all the other factors; such as having to move your cursor between the gameworld and the hotbars and the ackwardness of turning while trying to execute your abilities at the same time etc.

This is a nobrainer. The way you want to play is ofc a matter of your own personal preference and more power to you however you choose to play but the argument of which method is more effective in the end is not a philosophical matter without a clear winner when one side has almost all of the factors on its side.
The arguments are just getting funnier and funnier

Use what works for you, and smile at, but ignore those that tell you the way they do it is the "best way"

There is no single best way for everyone, because people... are different, they are not clones.
I have a bad feeling about this

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Dayln
03.20.2012 , 01:37 PM | #943
Quote: Originally Posted by Redmarx View Post
The defenders of clicking are basically saying that typing long documents using a mouse to click a virtual keyboard can be as fast as touch typing.

You're wrong.

Clickers are slow.

If they don't realise they're slow, it means they're so bad they can't even comprehend how bad they are.
Just as you cannot comprehend that they can easily be as good as you are.

Not everyone is the same.

You can be as fast as you want on the keyboard, there is still a global cool down that makes your point moot.

I don’t happen to be a clicker, however I am not so stupid as to think that my way, is the only, or the best way, for everyone.
I have a bad feeling about this

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Redmarx
03.20.2012 , 01:40 PM | #944
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
Just as you cannot comprehend that they can easily be as good as you are.

Not everyone is the same.

You can be as fast as you want on the keyboard, there is still a global cool down that makes your point moot.

I don’t happen to be a clicker, however I am not so stupid as to think that my way, is the only, or the best way, for everyone.
If you're saying that clicking a virtual keyboard to type is as fast as touch typing, I can prove you wrong, very very easily. Everyone is the same on that.

Several abilities, interrupts, adrenals, relics etc are off the GCD.

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Pyldrvr
03.20.2012 , 01:42 PM | #945
Quote: Originally Posted by Redmarx View Post
If you're saying that clicking a virtual keyboard to type is as fast as touch typing, I can prove you wrong, very very easily. Everyone is the same on that.

Several abilities, interrupts, adrenals, medpak etc are off the GCD.
It's like arguing with a cat. You can't win.

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Redmarx
03.20.2012 , 01:44 PM | #946
Quote: Originally Posted by Pyldrvr View Post
It's like arguing with a cat. You can't win.
Yeah I think these clickers are experiencing some serious Dunning Kruger.

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Dayln
03.20.2012 , 01:44 PM | #947
I am saying that with the global cool down in this game, and even shorter cool downs in other games that clickers have been very successful.

I recognize that people are different, and that different approaches than I use, might work for them as well as what I do.

I am just laughing at the people here that are so insecure that they have to talk about how they do something is the "best way" for everyone, it is just blatantly false.

People are different

Use what works best for you, try different things, but in the end, use what works best for you.

People are different
I have a bad feeling about this

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Dayln
03.20.2012 , 01:47 PM | #948
Quote: Originally Posted by Pyldrvr View Post
It's like arguing with a cat. You can't win.
LOL I know.. I’m trying to get them to open their closed eyes just a tiny little bit.... it is a worthless effort, they are incapable of comprehending it
I have a bad feeling about this

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Altaira
03.20.2012 , 01:47 PM | #949
I clicked to respond to this thread. Just sayin'

For maximum efficiency I have bound abilities to my Dance Dance Revolution floor mat. Of course, I only use this during PvP. I wouldnt want my insane key-binding advantage to make the game TOO easy. Talk about efficiency. I get exercise, I get to nerd it up AND I get to pwn in PvP due to my l33t binds.

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Redmarx
03.20.2012 , 01:47 PM | #950
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
I am saying that with the global cool down in this game, and even shorter cool downs in other games that clickers have been very successful.

I recognize that people are different, and that different approaches than I use, might work for them as well as what I do.

I am just laughing at the people here that are so insecure that they have to talk about how they do something is the "best way" for everyone, it is just blatantly false.

People are different

Use what works best for you, try different things, but in the end, use what works best for you.

People are different
Again lots of key abilities are OFF the GCD (in fact, the most extremely time-sensitive ones are) meaning you can (and should) be activating them at the same time as other abilities, and need to do so in a fraction of a second to maximise their use.

For a clicker, it means he has to be able to click 2-3 things at the same time with 1 cursor - ie: impossible.

Clickers make horrible PVPers because they cannot clutch interrupt, cannot targetswitch, cannot preposition target reticles and cannot burst multiple cooldowns at the same time the way keybinders can.

Made it simpler for you to understand I hope.