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byteresistor
03.20.2012 , 01:02 PM | #931
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
The developers goal of the game was not specifically differentiate the advantages of clickers vs key binders

That was not in their mission statement, and not in any way the purpose of the game.
I'm sure it wasn't the goal in any other MMOrpg with hotbars either, but the fact that it has hotbars, along with other similar game machanics like in those other games and the way the human body works, the difference always ends up being there in this genre.

And I take back what I said about five fingers vs. one mouse cursor earlier, because actually I can have ten fingers at my disposal given the right mouse. There is just no way you can click as fast with a mouse cursor alone, and that doesn't even include all the other factors; such as having to move your cursor between the gameworld and the hotbars and the ackwardness of turning while trying to execute your abilities at the same time etc.

This is a nobrainer. The way you want to play is ofc a matter of your own personal preference and more power to you however you choose to play but the argument of which method is more effective in the end is not a philosophical matter without a clear winner when one side has almost all of the factors on its side.

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Pyldrvr
03.20.2012 , 01:05 PM | #932
I can't believe this argument has gone on for this many pages. I also cannot believe anyone would argue that 'hunt and peck' with a mouse cursor is just as effective as keybindings.

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Galbatorrix
03.20.2012 , 01:10 PM | #933
Quote: Originally Posted by Marmerus View Post
Main keys that you use often close to ASDW (movement keys. You can unbind A and D if you don't eat infront of your computer ^^). That means number keys and QERTFGHZXCVB. Then add modifiers to all those keys (CTRL, ALT, SHIFT) and into your movement keys (example SHIFT+W).
Put secondary abilities with easy keybinds like SHIFT+Q.

I have a razer naga so I have 36 keys on mouse with action slots. On the mouse I set things like trinket that can be used at the same time as a damage ability. Using them at the same time means you get the FULL duration of the buff from the trinket.
Also put secondary skills on mouse with longer durations just to free up main buttons around movement.
Macros and targeting on mouse to speed up gameplay.

I use mouse to target unless I need to move fast around in combat. Then I use TAB or Mouse buttons on naga mixed with macros for focus target.

SWTOR has horrible targeting with mouse and with tab so I don't bother anymore. I just roll my face and attack anything I get in my target.

It makes the fingers on my left hand ache just reading this, haha. I definitely want to learn how, so I may start a new character again and give it a go so I don't have to bind so many abilities all at once. All of that just seems so daunting to a clicker.

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Galbatorrix
03.20.2012 , 01:12 PM | #934
Quote: Originally Posted by Pyldrvr View Post
I can't believe this argument has gone on for this many pages. I also cannot believe anyone would argue that 'hunt and peck' with a mouse cursor is just as effective as keybindings.

I'm a clicker and as I said earlier, I tank and heal with the best of them. *shrugs*


I'm not personally saying my way is more effective, but it doesn't hinder me at all as far as doing my job in group content.

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MackumDog
03.20.2012 , 01:16 PM | #935
I know for a fact that Chuck Norris is a clicker, his keyboard doesn’t have a Ctrl key because nothing controls Chuck Norris.
I can't brain today...I have the dumb

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Pyldrvr
03.20.2012 , 01:19 PM | #936
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
I'm a clicker and as I said earlier, I tank and heal with the best of them. *shrugs*


I'm not personally saying my way is more effective, but it doesn't hinder me at all as far as doing my job in group content.
Yea, I'm not saying it doesn't work fine. Probably the majority of players are clickers. However the folks that are claiming it is just as effective and efficient as keybinding are only lying to themselves because there is no way they can actually believe it.

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AmericanEulogy
03.20.2012 , 01:21 PM | #937
I do both, but when I use the keyboard, I tend to not know when certain things are on cooldown, and end up pressing the button of something once or twice before I realize it's not going to work because it's on CD. But when I click, i can easily see when something is still on cooldown and skip that ability in my rotation.

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Pyldrvr
03.20.2012 , 01:24 PM | #938
Quote: Originally Posted by AmericanEulogy View Post
I do both, but when I use the keyboard, I tend to not know when certain things are on cooldown, and end up pressing the button of something once or twice before I realize it's not going to work because it's on CD. But when I click, i can easily see when something is still on cooldown and skip that ability in my rotation.
you can still look at your icons when you are using keybindings, the difference is, you don't HAVE to look.

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Galbatorrix
03.20.2012 , 01:25 PM | #939
Quote: Originally Posted by Pyldrvr View Post
Yea, I'm not saying it doesn't work fine. Probably the majority of players are clickers. However the folks that are claiming it is just as effective and efficient as keybinding are only lying to themselves because there is no way they can actually believe it.


The only real advantage it seems to have is being able to circle strafe in PVP and use abilities at the same time. Which a clicker could still accomplish by using the asdqwe keys for complete movement while clicking.


Trust me, I still think you're right. But, I don't think the disparity makes as much a difference as you think. Not with everyone having to work around a GCD.

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AmericanEulogy
03.20.2012 , 01:26 PM | #940
Quote: Originally Posted by Pyldrvr View Post
you can still look at your icons when you are using keybindings, the difference is, you don't HAVE to look.
But if I use the keybindings, then I'm not forced to look, and I often forget, so I miss seeing if things are on cooldown. So I fail to see how using the keybindings in this way is more efficient than clicking.