1.2 Hard Mode loot. Why raid when you can just run dailies?

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Now Here is how to properly fix the gear/PVE loot issue. Its Logical and it gives you what you want IF and ONLY IF you EARN IT.

Warning You will not be in full raid gear if you do not put the effort into earning it.

Warning you will not get full Hard Mode Raid gear without Raiding Hard Modes.

Warning if you expect to be handed gear don’t expect ANY respect from me, I do not respect people not willing to put the effort into something that they want. People that want handouts go play the sims.

Implement 2 ways of getting Hard Mode raid gear. First being the loot that drops off the boss, the second is token that drops of a boss that coupled with 14 “Gear Daily Commendations” can buy you 1 peace of gear. So if you want to buy the T2 Chest piece of the vendor and did not get a drop you can tank 14 Gear Daily Commendations and the 1 Token and buy it. THIS Augments you getting gear if you raid casually. IF YOU DO NOT DOWN THE BOSS YOU DO NOT GET THE TOKEN TO BUY THE RAID GEAR!

Implement a Vendor to BUY Story Line Raid Gear with just the GEAR Daily Commendations (GDC). So you can get Story Line Gear for 7 GDC . This is so that IF you want to gear up to do Hard Modes and are a casual it will get you geared up to Hard Mode Level FASTER. It will not give you the Hard Mode Gear.

Implement a Solo Gear Vendor that will have Presence gear. Here is an example of what stats presence gear will have on it. Endurance – 90, Cunning – 50, Presences – 200, Surge Rating 2, Crit Rating – 4 This gear will have Presence the primary stat, the other stats will be good enough for players to go into a hard mode flashpoint but not raids. This is the type of gear for people who only want the solo aspect of the game.

Implement 2 chains of 3 to 5 quest each which will drop 1 GDC of each chain. Implement 1 GDC to drop of the Daily heroic.

This will allow CASUAL RAIDERS to gear up and attempt to keep up with Progressive raiders and Hard core raiders. It will not give out gear, it will require they put their efforts into dailies to make sure they can gear.
This will allow SOLO Players to get SOLO Progression gear, then you can setup SOLO Class/Daily type quest where you can go into a quest instance like what they have out in the world right now and do something small that resembles a SOLO Flashpoint. However it’s not an hour long nor is it as in-depth it may only take 15 minutes and you can make the mobs HARD to the point that SOLO Players must use Med Packs and Adrenals to kill the mini boss. NO GEAR HIGHER THEN BLUE PVE WORLD DROPS WILL DROP OFF THESE MINI BOSSES. A good Amount of credits will. But No Epic Raid Gear, Nor your SOLO Gear. You have to spend time getting that gear by doing Dailies.

This should make anyone that is after the CONTENT that is casual or the solo type to be happy. If you are a SOLO player and WANT RAID GEAR, TOUGH **** you did not down a Raid boss, and do not Plan to raid, therefore you have not earned the right to the raid gear OUTSIDE OF STORY LINE GEAR. FYI Story Line Gear will not be good enough for the SOLO Flashpoint like Quest. Only SOLO Gear because it will make your companion better to the point they are better than you. This will not help you in Flashpoints much, and it will harm you in raids. If you choose to do either Flashpoint content or Raid content you must work at that content not be given it.

^ I didn't read all of that, but what I skimmed seemed to indicate we should load solo gear with presence, which isn't a bad compromise.

Same base ilvl with more presence at a subtraction of the secondary stats or main stat. Good compromise.


Sort of off-topic, but 4 freaking raid modes. I'm tired of that crap. I was tired of it in WoW too. 1 size and I would concede two difficulties. But seriously, lose one of the sizes (preferably 8m)

No its not a bad compromise because its made only for Soloing because you cannot bring your companion for most group content. Yes for leveling flashpoints, but no for Hardmode flashpoints or raids.

Is a person wants to raid they get the raid gear from raiding. It will require them to find a Hard mode raiding guild however thats not too hard if you look for guilds that raid and if you are willing to put the effort needed to raid. That means if a guild requires you to sign up for the raid, have healing stims, be on time, and be repair thats what you need to do. Most raiding guilds have requirements that are really not hard to achieve. Again if a person wants to and they are given the chance to they need to make it happen.

Unless you are republic on half the servers. Everyone should have access to end level gear STATS. But the actual cool looking gear should be hard to obtain. Going the extra mile should reward in unique gear not required gear. Like the magenta crystal.

Everyone does have access to end level gear stats. Its should not be handed to them.

I understand that republic side on all servers are not as heavy on raiding. The same can be said about people on my server. However its not Biowares problem that most casual\solo players went republic. For every 1 republic player that applies to my guild on the republic side we get 10 to 15 people on the empire side that wants to raid. This is just the way it is.

Sorry, but it's not raid gear if one can get it doing solo content. It's just gear. I'll get it faster doing raids, but if someone gets it doing solo content then it doesn't mean a thing to me. Why does this hurt you so badly? Why do you need to compare yourself to others? This is entertainment, not real life. Go outside and achieve something worth while. Meet a nice girl, have some children for gods sake and quit crying about your gear.

Exact, GW2 is not out yet so, is it is best to not comment on that. I did play the first GW for a long time and the pve of the game was close to atrocious. GW was known for it's pvp not pve...

And from following GW2, it will be pretty much the same. Different type of game sir.


And really, while I would side with raiding gear should be given only in raid in every single discussion...

This game doesn't have any serious raiding potential right now and with how they made the game and interview, I doubt it ever will. NightMare mode was a goddanm awful desapointment. A few hours to clear out (progression) 16 man raid with a group that is mostly new to each others, in a new game, without any kind of log (not necessary here anyway) and possibly other reasons I can't think off right now... Is yes, sad coming from the so call hardest level of difficulty.

Raiders, let it go. This game wasn't design with that in mind. It is hard to have an argument about gear as a reward when soloing group quest is probably more challenging than NiM raids. An exaggeration but the point is there. Higher challenge = better reward is dying. Less for more is the new moto.

There are already Raiders that will let it go if Solo Players are not handed Raid gear, if not they will let it go after they cancel their subscriptions. Solo Players need to stop asking for WELFARE because they dont want to earn their gear by downing a raid boss. I already offered a simple solution, Solo Players get Solo gear not raid gear.

O and FYI Solo players rarely bring friends into the game, while raiders well they bring other people into game. I personally brought 10 people to SWTOR, a few ended up on a PVP server. A Few brought more friends. While some Solo players well they dont play with people so how could they bring friends? They don't O and FYI raiders in my guild have already brought another dozen friends to SWTOR. Sorry but your Raider goes there goes your potential.

Deal with it that Raiders dont want their gear handed out for not raiding. It's Tough **** that we want you to earn your gear, same will go for Rated PVP gear, Rated PVP players will want you to earn it not just buy it for credits.

Raiding is Competitive always has been since EQ. If you did not down the boss you do not get the gear. Why should you be GIVEN the gear for not killing the boss? Sounds like Welfare to me. Why because you did not EARN a dam thing. Just like if you want to win a bowling Trophy, if you dont join a bowling league/team and bowl you have no right to the trophy.

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