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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

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NasherUK

03.20.2012 , 10:11 AM \| #811
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined A few complain that the LFG Tool destroyed the community in WoW, yet that game is still sitting pretty on around 10million subscribers. Those same people say that this game is much better off without an LFG Tool and yet it seems to be struggling to keep subscriptions. I think that is a pretty strong case alone. They aren't on anywhere near 10 million any more, many people have quit because blizzard ruined the game with bad expansions/updates and making everything stupidly easy. Also most of those players are and always were in Asia, not EU/ US. Take away those and you won't have many more than TOR currently has. Pretty soon they will need to merge realms because many are now near empty. The LFG tool was put in to wow a couple of years ago because there were no groups for non-endgame content. Now it's been expanded on because there are just no groups at all on many realms.

ferroz

03.20.2012 , 10:12 AM \| #812
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin Your personal experience, or mine for that matter, are irrelevant. I was projecting my personal experience as the overall experience. Fixed that for you. Quote: It is not needed for leveling in this game so that aspect would be moot also. Sure, you don't have to run flashpoints while leveing... but the game is losing something significant as people stop running that content.
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ferroz

03.20.2012 , 10:15 AM \| #813
Quote: Originally Posted by NasherUK They aren't on anywhere near 10 million any more, many people have quit because blizzard ruined the game with bad expansions/updates and making everything stupidly easy. Nah, I'd say that it was more due to the fact that cata was a half *** expansion (seriously lacking in content) and that they yo-yo'd too much on difficulty. Quote: Also most of those players are and always were in Asia, not EU/ US. Source? Quote: They were pretty much forced to make the LFG tool a couple of years ago because there were no groups for non-endgame content. No, there were groups for endgame content...
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Andryah

03.20.2012 , 10:17 AM \| #814
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined A few complain that the LFG Tool destroyed the community in WoW, yet that game is still sitting pretty on around 10million subscribers. 9.2 Million of those are Asian coin-play on Asian servers. Try again.
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NasherUK

03.20.2012 , 10:24 AM \| #815
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz Nah, I'd say that it was more due to the fact that cata was a half *** expansion (seriously lacking in content) and that they yo-yo'd too much on difficulty. Source? No, there were groups for endgame content... China is wow's biggest market by a LONG way, where they pay a fraction of the subscription price we do. There aren't physically enough servers to handle more than 2-3 million in EU/US.

Datku

03.20.2012 , 10:27 AM \| #816
cross server lfg tool is needed sadly. Having a max level character it can be difficult to find a group to do anything some days. My sorc is fairly well geared from doing many guild runs and ops but sometimes no one is around to do an instance. Sure I don't need anything out of them but I like to play so I try to use the lfg flag and general chat and nothing. So I end up logging out instead. Have lower level alts...its impossible to be able to do flash points on lower level alts. No one is running flash points because it takes hours after hours to fill a group. Even doing heroic 4's on lower levels is starting to prove a waste of time. I can land on a planet. Pick up all the heroic quests. Use general to lfg for all heroics. Meanwhile do story line quests and side quests. All the time lfg any heroic. I will finish the planet off of every quest possible except for the heroics. In many cases missing out on some good upgrades because no groups. One of my alts is on Alderran now. I still have heroic 4 from Ballmora, nar shada, tatoinee, and alderran now that I have not done because can never find a group. Did black talon flash points a few times, never did hammer station, athiss, mandalorean raiders, cademimu pretty much every single flash point after BT I have not been able to do on either of my alts because of no groups. No heroics, no flash points I am missing out on pretty close to all group activities on the alts....it is a single player game. Even at max levels some times can't find a group (normal or even hard mode or even pulling lower levels through instances). I end up standing around in fleet zoning out waiting for PvP to pop until I get so bored I log off. In a perfect world I would love to not need a cross server lfg tool...but the state of things currently one is desperately needed otherwise people on alts, and new players are going to miss out on a lot the game has to offer.
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macphisto

03.20.2012 , 10:28 AM \| #817
We really need cross server LFG tool, so far today ive spent 2 hours spamming on fleet for a HM FP and still no group. I understand the views of it could spoil the community but when you cant play the game because you cant get a group i think we really need this.
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Snoodmaster

03.20.2012 , 10:34 AM \| #818
Quote: Originally Posted by NasherUK They aren't on anywhere near 10 million any more, many people have quit because blizzard ruined the game with bad expansions/updates and making everything stupidly easy. Also most of those players are and always were in Asia, not EU/ US. Take away those and you won't have many more than TOR currently has. Pretty soon they will need to merge realms because many are now near empty. Actually it seems that the majority of the losses were from China. Quote: Originally posted by http://www.industrygamers.com/news/w...ning-analysts/ Morhaime then proceeded to talk about the elephant in the room: �WoW finished the quarter with 10.3 million active subscribers worldwide, which is down from the previous quarter. While the majority of these declines are coming from the East, WoW continues to be one of the most popular online games in China and remains by far the most popular subscription-based MMO in the world.� And the losses seem to be slowing, at least in December of 2011. http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/02/09/wo...riber-numbers/ It should be interesting to see what the numbers for Q1 2012 are, but to say that WoW is dead or dying is a vast overexageration.

DarthKhaos

03.20.2012 , 10:36 AM \| #819
Quote: Originally Posted by Datku cross server lfg tool is needed sadly. Having a max level character it can be difficult to find a group to do anything some days. My sorc is fairly well geared from doing many guild runs and ops but sometimes no one is around to do an instance. Sure I don't need anything out of them but I like to play so I try to use the lfg flag and general chat and nothing. So I end up logging out instead. Have lower level alts...its impossible to be able to do flash points on lower level alts. No one is running flash points because it takes hours after hours to fill a group. Even doing heroic 4's on lower levels is starting to prove a waste of time. I can land on a planet. Pick up all the heroic quests. Use general to lfg for all heroics. Meanwhile do story line quests and side quests. All the time lfg any heroic. I will finish the planet off of every quest possible except for the heroics. In many cases missing out on some good upgrades because no groups. One of my alts is on Alderran now. I still have heroic 4 from Ballmora, nar shada, tatoinee, and alderran now that I have not done because can never find a group. Did black talon flash points a few times, never did hammer station, athiss, mandalorean raiders, cademimu pretty much every single flash point after BT I have not been able to do on either of my alts because of no groups. No heroics, no flash points I am missing out on pretty close to all group activities on the alts....it is a single player game. Even at max levels some times can't find a group (normal or even hard mode or even pulling lower levels through instances). I end up standing around in fleet zoning out waiting for PvP to pop until I get so bored I log off. In a perfect world I would love to not need a cross server lfg tool...but the state of things currently one is desperately needed otherwise people on alts, and new players are going to miss out on a lot the game has to offer. And how will cross server LFG help you do heroic quests on your alts?
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Aepervius

03.20.2012 , 10:54 AM \| #820
Quote: Originally Posted by Akash I use LFD several times a week in Rift, and have for many months. It works fine, and I've not experienced any of the poor behavior people experienced in WoW. I'm not sure why WoW seems to have had such an amazingly bad community. It's sad that it did. It is a combination of negative selection bias (people will not remember the 50 PUG which went well, but will remember the one which went belly up) and a combination of the fact that you can need on EQ which is not your class. Also of note : in rift, you cannot need as a mage on a plate stuff. The button is simply disabled. That totally curb the ninja behavior.
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