STOP copying WoW and start copying DAoC

Most players want large scale battles because most players do not know how to play, and larger numbers scale down the importance of their individual mistakes, and masks class differences in power.

Responses like this and even the OP 's title says it all. Most people today that play just want to play the exact same thing for some reason.

People play "any MMO"
People get tired of it and talk about "New MMO" coming out, building it up
People play "new MMO" then get mad because it isn't like "any MMO"
Get on forums and cry.

You can go to ANY forums on any MMO and they all look like this. Maybe the problem isn't with the games, maybe the problem is with the players.

Farming in DF for 1 week, then dying once, and loosing the whole weeks worth of exp over 40 :P

Still, that didnt stop you from enjoying the game, which kinda says alot.

If you are the one who just runs with the zerg, sure. If you are skirmishing and doing flank attacks to break the enemy zerg up - certainly not (one mistake gets you killed). Judging by your comment you must be the former.

Most players want large scale battles because most players do not know how to play, and larger numbers scale down the importance of their individual mistakes, and masks class differences in power.

FACT 1 is WRONG get over yourself, WOW PVP when it first came out was awesome fun, on par with UO. Anyone who played when WOW first came out and didn't enjoy the MC fights at the mountain or TM/SS is someone who doesn't like PVP or just sucks at it.

The rest of your points I didn't bother to read since you discredited yourself after your first failed fact.

the pvp society online as the

You show how little you know, if DAoC had the budget of WoW or SWTOR for that matter and could have thrown up a PR Campaign like either game the scales would be different, the game ran up to what a million players despite NO commercial advertisement. Hell half of you peons didnt even know the game excisted Conclussion is DAoC has by all standards and remains by all standards the most challenging pvp game and if you say otherwise it prooves you are a complete and utter tool who has no say in anything on the interwebz, theres no argueing a fact sorry bud, You'd say to me with a straight face that random zerging in a battleground/Warzone has anything on small man/solo/Group action where you proove yourself the better or the worse player everytime you enter a fight? come now don't embarass yourself, the world PvP is something to learn and live by , the DAoC Battlegrounds are something worth looking into , and ya know best of all is if they implement them i'll bet ya anything that the Warzones will become completely deserted and we'll be back to World pvp - MMORPG Fact... People prefers killing / hack and slashing to do useless random objectives and being told by random scrubs what to do ...."go plant the bomb on the door noob dont fight people omg" is one of such idiot comments, if YOU prefer to play pvp for ....well...PLAYING PVP? ....PLAYER VERSUS PLAYER? ..... Not CATCH THE BALL AND RUN .....not .... PLANT THE BOMB AND GET TO THE CHOPPAH.......or the all time favorite....CAMPCAPCAMPCAPCAMPCAP...yea... F THAT.... more actual PvP and less objectives k thanks bye

Yes, and your observation and thus conclusion is wrong. Larger numbers do not compensate the lack of indivual skill (else you couldn't easily harass them often by flanking attacks or do skirmishing in general with much success). Logic much?