STOP copying WoW and start copying DAoC

Google "best pvp mmo of all time", nearly every single site has daoc in first place or in the top 5.

Mmos where never and will never be good for esports, look how fast wow was dropped from any important esport event despite blizzard promoting the **** out of esport wow, thats because mmos are not meant for esport.

Mmos are meant to create a world for the players to interact with and that very much includes meaningful pvp.

The sooner the devs realize that esport and mmo doesn´t mix the better for all of us.

You know DAoC was not all about keep fights.

Its mostly about 8v8 in open terain where you constantly had to be on alert for other grps roaming, thats hav you cordinate and switch tactics and move thats where the skill comes into play, large scale battles was when people wanted to gain access to Darkness Falls and it evoled into big RvR battles, or when an realm decided they wanted a relic to boost thier dps an a realm wide alarm went out so "all" in the realm had to go out to defend.

And about WoWs arena i wouldnt know hav it is now i havnt set foot in it since wrath where they facerolled everything to get a much younger audiance (10+) game is for kids not for grown men.

or copy Aions fortress siege system (hell, even copying dredgion would be an improvement too):

A basic guide on Aions Open World PVP "abyss" zone can be found in this months aion magazine: (link to the free preview version, article starts on page 23):

https://free.aionmagazine.com/preview.html

Even SWG got it mildly right with attackable bases (corellia, talus, naboo), before battlefields got added (wasnt a big fan of those tbh).

Albeit Im really not convinced the hero engine can handle large scale combat

Most players want large scale battles because most players do not know how to play, and larger numbers scale down the importance of their individual mistakes, and masks class differences in power.

GW2 copied from DaoC i hope they will do it well

Bioware? They even cannot copy good ....

Sure, but the nice thing about daoc was that the maps where big enough to support all kinds of playstyles, 8vs8 for example was pretty big on my server and 8vs8 in daoc was and is pretty much the most skillful mmo pvp you can have in mmorpgs, a single fight sometimes lasted 15minutes and not because of arbitrarily high hp pools...

You also could go out and fight 1vs1, yeah sometimes you where rolled by a group or zerg but there was quite a large 1vs1 community.

Or some small group action... you pretty much could do everything you wanted.

Responses like this and even the OP 's title says it all. Most people today that play just want to play the exact same thing for some reason.

People play "any MMO"
People get tired of it and talk about "New MMO" coming out, building it up
People play "new MMO" then get mad because it isn't like "any MMO"
Get on forums and cry.

You can go to ANY forums on any MMO and they all look like this. Maybe the problem isn't with the games, maybe the problem is with the players.

Or maybe it is because most try to copy and get a piece of wows cake... which they maybe get for a month until people realize that wow is better at being wow then the wowclones are

I recently read gabe talking about esports preseason and stuff...
so they now want to copy wows disastrous attempt at esport, now that is really funny to copy that pos

Thank you for proving my point.

Fact 2: DAoC was freaking great and has been deemed by the pvp society online as the best pvp game of ALL Times yet you dont cooporate with your OWN collegaues at Mythic who has infinitely more experience creating MMORPG games? That's silly learn from their mistakes by and learn from the things they created that was awesome.....pvp objective based war areas such as the frontiers, and create PERMANENT battlegrounds for the level brackets to enjoy.

I have wondered, about his myself..