Hybrid Sorcerer/Sage Utility is OP in PvP

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Hybrid Sorcerer/Sage Utility is OP in PvP

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LarekGunstar

03.19.2012 , 03:18 AM \| #261	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri Sorcerers are getting nerfed in 1.2 and it seems Bioware opted for the less preferable suggestion by limiting Wrath to Lightning Strike and Crushing Darkness. They did buff Wrath's effect on Crushing Darkness to compensate. I'll leave my OP intact in it's current form. Previous incarnations of this thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=271581 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=2845888 Thanks, please proceed to die in a fire. Kthx

Tumri

03.19.2012 , 02:18 PM \| #262	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by LarekGunstar Thanks, please proceed to die in a fire. Kthx I wanted them to nerf the CC and leave the damage intact or even BUFF their damage to compensate. They did the EXACT opposite of what I felt would have been the best option.
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Stopsight

03.19.2012 , 02:37 PM \| #263	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri I wanted them to nerf the CC and leave the damage intact or even BUFF their damage to compensate. They did the EXACT opposite of what I felt would have been the best option. I'm sure you're torn up In the end sorcs are weakened both offensively (directly) and defensively (indirectly through the lack of damage viability going deeper into Lightning, gimp your damage in return for defensive CC). Tumri will now weep himself to sleep in his 1.2 bed, comforted by the warmth of unnecessary marauder buffs.

Ortof

03.19.2012 , 02:37 PM \| #264	Quote
I am seriously having a hard time taking anything on these forums from a Sorc as serious in regards to their abilities to damage let alone heal and even furthermore do both at the same time. When I see multiple Sorcs doing 500k+ damage while achieving 100k+ healing in a long match it's really beyond me. Call me bad, flame me, do whatever you want to make you sleep at night or insert whatever excuse you want, that simply isn't "OMG we are the weakest class in MMO history", like the forums would have you believe.

Stopsight

03.19.2012 , 02:48 PM \| #265	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Ortof I am seriously having a hard time taking anything on these forums from a Sorc as serious in regards to their abilities to damage let alone heal and even furthermore do both at the same time. When I see multiple Sorcs doing 500k+ damage while achieving 100k+ healing in a long match it's really beyond me. Call me bad, flame me, do whatever you want to make you sleep at night or insert whatever excuse you want, that simply isn't "OMG we are the weakest class in MMO history", like the forums would have you believe. The healing is highly irrelevant, akin to the damage absorbed by a merc's shield or a marauder's defensive cooldowns being slapped up on the scoreboard as healing.

Ortof

03.19.2012 , 02:51 PM \| #266	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Stopsight The healing is highly irrelevant, akin to the damage absorbed by a merc's shield or a marauder's defensive cooldowns being slapped up on the scoreboard as healing. Please specify "healing merc", I'm an Arsenal Merc and don't have that healing bubble. But how can you even compare the two? Healing merc is doing what he is speced right? DPS Sorc is getting a byproduct and a big one at that. Take 100k off of the healing mercs healing if you want and bring them down to what, 200k tops with no damage. I agree with you on a Mara's defensive, but I haven't seen them as high as Sorc's.

fungihoujo

03.19.2012 , 02:51 PM \| #267	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri Because people were justifying the CC by claiming that was ALL they had. Utility seems to be a more broad term that covers the topic of their bubble balancing out their squishyness and the hybrid spec not sacrificing any major damage for utility(mostly CC). I still maintain that their CC is what is OP but the new title should hopefully keep circular arguments involving "squishyness" and "gimped DPS in hybrid specs" out. Grats to the OP, a marauder whining about sorcs got what you wanted- the easiest class for you to destroy just got nerfed into the ground while you got buffed into the sky. Sorcs are now a utility class only with long cast time heals that will always be interrupted by decent players, no burst damage, and no good aoe damage. Good luck getting the CC/utility nerfed out of the game too!

Tsubodia

03.19.2012 , 02:52 PM \| #268	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Ortof I am seriously having a hard time taking anything on these forums from a Sorc as serious in regards to their abilities to damage let alone heal and even furthermore do both at the same time. When I see multiple Sorcs doing 500k+ damage while achieving 100k+ healing in a long match it's really beyond me. Call me bad, flame me, do whatever you want to make you sleep at night or insert whatever excuse you want, that simply isn't "OMG we are the weakest class in MMO history", like the forums would have you believe. the bubble counts as a heal. so every time i absorb 3k dmg from my bubble the scoreboard recognises t as a heal. easy 100k healing done in any decent length wz. also any fool can do 500k dmg on any class. not exactly hard now
For all the qqers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasZz...eature=related

L-RANDLE

03.19.2012 , 02:52 PM \| #269	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Tumri I wanted them to nerf the CC and leave the damage intact or even BUFF their damage to compensate. They did the EXACT opposite of what I felt would have been the best option. You are correct in your observations... Hybrid DPS Sorcs/Sages got buffed and lost no cc..... LOL.... The all cc can't affect anyone with max out resolve though... The double heal exploit was the only thing that needed to be eliminated.. See what happens when the uninformed (yourself excluded) cry for nerfs.....

Stopsight

03.19.2012 , 02:56 PM \| #270	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Ortof Please specify "healing merc", I'm an Arsenal Merc and don't have that healing bubble. But how can you even compare the two? Healing merc is doing what he is speced right? DPS Sorc is getting a byproduct and a big one at that. Take 100k off of the healing mercs healing if you want and bring them down to what, 200k tops with no damage. I agree with you on a Mara's defensive, but I haven't seen them as high as Sorc's. The healing on the scoreboard is from filling up outside of combat or shield. Trying to heal as a dps spec while being attacked is a losing proposition. the shield i was referring to for Mercs is "Energy Shield" the -25% damage for 12 seconds baseline ability. If all of the damage absorbed everytime that was activated was thrown onto the scoreboard, every dps would be close to sorcs.

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