1.2 Patch Notes for us!

For PvP:

Immortal wasn't changed because it was already an awesome spec for awesome people.

Vengeance makes slightly more sense, I still wouldn't recommend it.

Rage was made so drooling toddlers could play the build. Any form of intensive rage management was done away with the vicious slash buff, making this the easiest spec to pull insane damage in. Get ready to see this spec occupied by the worst players.

Also I am really happy with the Vengeance Defense changes, not because it was game breaking, but because I was sick and tired of reading terrible tanking build threads which seemed to pop up every day. Thankyou Bioware for axing this terrible playstyle.

If you think Juggernauts have gimped damage, you don't know how to play.

Let some masochists play this class further. The game is young, level a marauder or Sith Assassin or Sorcerer, just play a finished class.

sadly yeah... i don't understand why people are whining about the stun on charge(it's a problem ok, but not as this) and not this...

the big nerf is the 3 sec cd... on smash AND scream. the minus 10% i can live with, ffs i can live with a 20% nerf (my max atm is 7119 and was a bit too much... followed by a 4500 of scream was too much...) but don't touch the cd...

sure they give us a new way to build shockwave (enrage now give shockwave if talented) but on the long terms this 3 sec will lower our dmg. and ofc force choke in not 47 sec cd anymore, it will be 60... another nerf for building shockwave... bah

when i play in soresu (meaning 12 sec smash) i already feel the long cd... after 1.2 will always be like that...

Actually, I don't care much about those nerfs to our damage. What I'm not happy about is that we are still the least survivable dps class in the game. Look at the defensive cd's of other classes. Now look at what we got. A cd that only works if you have a healer or a medpack and a 25% damage reduction(and it has a freaking 3 minute cd) to the most abundant and strongest damage type in pvp. And no, adding a defensive cd that heals you for a little hp that costs rage everytime you get hit isn't the answer. Seriously, why can't we get at least 20% damage reduction cd when all the other dps classes has the same/larger hp with much better defensive cd than us?

The nerfs to DPS wouldn't have been so bad if they'd left Rage gen alone and added genuine surviability or better utility (such as Force Pull).

But unfortunately they didn't.

As a pure tank Immortality tank this thing still blows,

1 thing should be changed and i would be happy. Lower the cooldowns on our taunts "ohh its not even a taunt"

in regards of dps. well as a tank you should not do dps. only have agro, as a Dps you should have dps, but no agro.
How hard can that be to fix

did you read any of the changes?

lol like Immortal is so hard to play. The whole spec is a joke and play so slow a moron could play it while keyboardturning.

Obviously you didn't understand the issue here...

People complaining about the crash passive are people thinking about rated pvp and organized gameplay.

People (like you) whining about 3 more sec on smash are people who play rage spec. Nobody cares about rage spec as it's a dumb spec designed only to allow mentally challenged players to play sith warrior.

I'm not blaming you for playing it, and in fact I love rage spec and the diversity it gives to the game. One of the core aspect of our society is tolerance and I respect that!

But dude let's be clear for 2 sec : nobody serious about pvping in this game cares about rage.

The point of the discussion is : crash is a nerf and people want to know if Bioware did this nerf on purpose or if they meant to buff the class, in which case it's important to report them the flaws in their thinking.