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1.2 Hard Mode loot. Why raid when you can just run dailies?

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1.2 Hard Mode loot. Why raid when you can just run dailies?

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Spero-Mcgee
03.18.2012 , 04:02 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by ValaxDarkseer View Post
You mean to tell me theres actually someone out there who finds dailies enjoyable and entertaining?

Lol ok. Sounds to me like you are one of those casuals who say, "It should be about fun not loot!" and then come into threads like this and go, "why should only raiders get the best loot! I pay the same sub fee, why shouldnt I get a Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker?"
GJ m8, now I want Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker as a vibrosword in SWtor or something similiar make it happen BW! ;p

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ValaxDarkseer
03.18.2012 , 04:05 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Spero-Mcgee View Post
GJ m8, now I want Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker as a vibrosword in SWtor or something similiar make it happen BW! ;p
As a casual I DEMAND Bioware add Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker as a vibrosword. I pay the same sub fee as WoW players and deserve it.

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Gavin_Darkl
03.18.2012 , 04:06 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Raventhorpe View Post
I am so sick of people who don't play MMO's for fun. Sure take the game seriously when you are doing HM/NM but thats not what we are talking about.
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I am so sick of you people who think that you are entitled to this gear without raiding. Yes its a problem it causes people to stop raiding and play Solo. If you can be giving raid gear for not raiding people will not raid. It talked about all over my server in general chat. You people need to quit asking for handouts.

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Leovinus
03.18.2012 , 04:42 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Gavin_Darkl View Post
I am so sick of you people who think that you are entitled to this gear without raiding. Yes its a problem it causes people to stop raiding and play Solo. If you can be giving raid gear for not raiding people will not raid. It talked about all over my server in general chat. You people need to quit asking for handouts.
I raid, so don't try to come after me without acknowledging that fact.

That being said, in THIS game, I would absolutely raid if I had 2 options raid or grind weeks of solo daily content. Because the raids are interesting, and they drop the loot at a far higher rate. And you need to stop with the whole argument of "shouldn't need raid gear to do solo content". That's a classic chicken and egg argument, and if you can't see that, you're simply entrenched in the classical "raiding is the end all be all of endgame content" thought process. A lot of people, myself included would love to have significant solo progression as well as having a REASON for it. I'd probably do that too, in addition to raids and group content.

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JonasJ
03.18.2012 , 06:10 PM | #75
the "best" gear for you depends on what you are doing. for instance BM gear is the "best" for pvp, rakata is the "best" for operations. they should make a tier of gear with presence on it (a useless stat of ops and pvp) for questing and soloing content with your companion. that way all players can get the "best" gear in the game for what they do and everyone is happy. Operations should be the only way to get operation gear pvp should be the only way to get pvp gear and questing should be the only way to get quest gear end of story

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IndoJabijin
03.18.2012 , 06:33 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by JonasJ View Post
the "best" gear for you depends on what you are doing. for instance BM gear is the "best" for pvp, rakata is the "best" for operations. they should make a tier of gear with presence on it (a useless stat of ops and pvp) for questing and soloing content with your companion. that way all players can get the "best" gear in the game for what they do and everyone is happy. Operations should be the only way to get operation gear pvp should be the only way to get pvp gear and questing should be the only way to get quest gear end of story
Unfortunately there are only 2 types of gear: PvE or PvP. I see no reason why getting the best PvE gear should be limited to raids. If the other option requires as much dedication and time I don't see an issue.

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Anthiel
03.18.2012 , 06:38 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Dragonbgone View Post
World of Warcraft for 7 years. Yes, people are motivated by gear but that doesn't mean it's right.
it also dosent make it wrong. i played the heck outta wow too but if there was no raid gear all you did it for was the challange i dont think i would have played wow for as many years i dont think it would have made it 7 years with no loot raids.

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IndoJabijin
03.18.2012 , 06:54 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Anthiel View Post
it also dosent make it wrong. i played the heck outta wow too but if there was no raid gear all you did it for was the challange i dont think i would have played wow for as many years i dont think it would have made it 7 years with no loot raids.
Well, that's also an issue with the P2P model. You need something to strive for and the carrot on the stick model is what keeps people playing.

Hench why a game like GW2 will have no end game raiding or "best" gear. It doesn't have a sub. So you can pick it up, play for all you want, shelve it and wait for the next content update or expansion to continue playing.

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Gavin_Darkl
03.18.2012 , 07:07 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by IndoJabijin View Post
Unfortunately there are only 2 types of gear: PvE or PvP. I see no reason why getting the best PvE gear should be limited to raids. If the other option requires as much dedication and time I don't see an issue.
Again no one would care if they were getting Presence gear. The problem is these people Can not accept that. they feel they are entitled to Raid gear because they pay $15 a month even though they do not raid. That is just selfish and ignorance of them. If they want raid gear they should have to raid for it.

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Gavin_Darkl
03.18.2012 , 07:10 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by IndoJabijin View Post
Well, that's also an issue with the P2P model. You need something to strive for and the carrot on the stick model is what keeps people playing.
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This is what Solo players do not understand. They do not understand MMOS they only understand they want everything for the $15 a month they spent. Not that they might as well just buy a single player game and get the entire game in 1 DVD.