STOP copying WoW and start copying DAoC

This is not the pvp rpg mmo you are looking for. GW2 is right around the corner.

If SWTOR could offer DAOC-like open world PvP I'd resubscribe immediately. Meanwhile BW removes ilum in 1.2 and my subscription expires today.

Fixed.

Because "hardcores" cannot fund anything except a tinly 1-2 server niche game. Period. It's just reality.

Hell yeah, as an old fivefold r10-11-12 DAoC player, I had so much fun to play, spending nights to farm ML9 making tons of gold to develop my manors, spending hours in Emain with my team, roaming foaming at the mouths, or HW/OG with my Hunt's friend, as a main 12L4 Viking Skald char, I was actually far from OP but, so-so-so much fun in it !

Then I realized than now, MMO games ere designed for players ranging from 12 to 16 years old with an inferiority complex and who want to rules the world, this is why WoW got such a lot of votes so far: cartoon graphisms, simply more simplistic day by day, OPness from classes tossed up then buffed or nerfed patch by patch, thereby players will remain hopeful for the next patch ("maybe this time it's over to me ?? Yes it is ! MOMMY DADY ! Seen how I pwnzd this guy during my HOJ ?? Hell yeah son, but now mom have to wash the dishes then shut up and play until dad will come back from work").

Well, thus this is actually the only way to dev a mmo game which will generate alot of dough...

^^^^ this! Bump!

ROFLMAO, Scouts got NERF after NERF afer NERF after NERR after NERF afrer NERF after NERF!

There was actually a webpage called "Death of a Scout" listing all the damn NERFS.

Also 3 factions was WHY DAOC worked. Every dual faction PvP game since GW1 has failed since then.

Point still stands, wow is terrible.

Scouts main nerfs were Crit Shot tweak, so that 2+ archers couldn't insta drop any target (but the second/third etc would do 50% crit damage). Then Slam was reduce in duration.

You forget to remember point blank shot aswell as the various other improvements they recieved. Ranger's buff line for free etc.

Slam was nerfed for everyone, not just scouts.

But Stealthing in DAOC created a "seperate" style, just look at Navreen's Stealth Nation. 30+ Stealther's just obliterating visibles. People dispised stealthers because you couldn't react to them, which is why also that Slam got nerfed.

DAOC as a hole, had some of the best PvP I'd ever played (continued playing from release until present). But we all have different aspirations for the games we play. I loved small manning or 8v8 in DAOC. Running with 2/3 friends and just rolling everything we see, or the epic fights where you'd manage to drop so many more. I remember grouping with Horaiyo on Friar/Paladin battlemaster duo, where we killed about 18 people before we finally died. I think he even fraps'd it.

But sadly, games seem to have progressed where GEAR is more important over skill, which is why I see my MMO career dying shortly. Part of the reason, is it gives you an excuse if you lose "he had better gear so I lost" kinda thing, but most players won't admit that. I may have lost regardless, but it's like you never know. I want to know, that when I beat someone it's because I outplayed them, or they made mistakes, not simply because I spent 12 hours a day getting top tier gear, just to facerolll everyone.

That is why DAOC to me was a great game. I never played WoW besides using a friends account in beta for about 10 hours. But the lack of PvP content at the beginning didn't appeal to me and by the time it was added, I had no interest in trying.

I genuinely don't understand the mindset of people who like to grind, sure I've done it by leveling 3 char's to 50, and leveling a friends toon 80% to 50. (He did first 10/15, I did most after that lol). But it was all in the hopes to get fun PvP.

But the trouble with the gear for example my Sentinel now even in full centurion gear has 577 expertise which isn't bad. But my strength/end are still only around 1100, compared to the full BM players at around 1400+. So for fresh 50's, there's not only the 10% damage reduction/increase that they have to face, it's the huge difference in primary stats also.

Also, the original DAOC creaters I doubt are with Mythic anymore. Sanya is off working on a game called Dominus now, many of the early people are on other games. I remember BardicGoddess the dev went to work on LOTR etc. So wether they could re-create it is another matter.

the reality of this post is , Note how no one who's actually played DAoC has disagreed only WoW players disagree because they THINK WoW had a good pvp system compared to DAoC , it's humerous to see really