No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

I've no problem with anything of that nature for PvP, IF you are doing it seriously then you are in a pre-made. Other than that there is zero interaction needed.

PvE however, Heck I'd rather see none-at-all, not even same server (Though that would be the lesser of two evils). My issue is about standards of behaviour, some have come here with bad habits already formed because of being in situations where they thought there was zero accountability. Unlikely to ever randomly meet these folks again so no repercussions for nasty childish behaviour.

If you have to go out and actualy put in work to form a group, your face gets known.... for good or for bad. Play well, behave well, be friendly and those people will be likely to keep an eye out for you in future and give you first refusal on any group slot.

Act like an idiot and people will not want to group with you, your bad behaviour earns you a bad reputation and soon you couldn't find a group no matter what.... all your own fault and you ARE accountable.

Bring in a Random grouper and that accountability is lost..... multi-server ones even more so.

Bad idea unless the dev's WANT the hostile atmosphere and spead of negative behaviour from there into other aspects of the game.

(And whilst kids ARE the worst culprits, they are not the ONLY culprits that lower their standards of behaviour when not accountable. I've seen players who I've known where older than me do so (Late 40's))

no, I'd still vastly prefer cross server lfg; even if they merge servers 4:1 there still won't be a dense enough population to support mid level flashpoints, and the fact that new players will basically miss out on flashpoints is a big negative for the game as a whole.

No, the worst scum I ran into in rift were in the top defiant guild on my server; they had 0 problems getting groups or running raids since, you know, they were the top defiant raid guild on the server.

There were people on the PoMS (peice of monkey ****) list on my EQ server that remained in guilds; the girl who ninjalooted stuff from someone's 10th ring war, and a druid that had been well known as a training/KSing PoS for years (anyone who ever traveled through RM on that server would know his name); both of them were in guilds when I quit playing, and the former was in one of the bigger raid guilds (say, top 6 or so) for the server. People in some of the top 3 guilds on that server (the ones that had been top 2 until PoP when SI leapfrogged them to beat time ahead of them) had some real douches in them: people who would train, camp jump and KS you at the drop of a hat; I repeatedly ran into a particular enchanter who trained the hell out of all the low level people to get a camp for an alt in mistmoore, and was repeatedly trained/camp jumped by him in tactics/BoT. The guild leaders just didn't care.

same for wow: a guy that was known to have used masterloot to take the ony mount continued to run pug raids every week and was still in a guild last time I was paying attention to trade chat in orgrimar. Sure, a guy spammed general chat about the ninjalooting for a month every time he was recruiting for his pug raid... he still ran them every week.

Most of the server either won't bother to keep track of the people that you shun. If you spam general chat, most of the server isn't going to care, because there's no way to verify the truth of what you're saying. The only thing it actually accomplishes is that you personally won't ever get grouped with them again, and that works just as well in an lfg tool (whether single server or cross server) as it does without an lfg tool.

No, that accountability is still there; it just doesn't actually do anything.

They can help mid level flashpoints by adding mentor/sidekick/level match system. Where high level players can match low level players to help them without making the flashpoint too easy or hurting their xp. This will also help with heroics where cross server LFG will not, since many heroics are not instanced. Not to mention helping people level in general and bring more people back to dead worlds.



Just an alternative solution to the specific grouping problem you mentioned, not trying to be for or against a LFG tool.

Another misguided soul that thinks accountability has ever meant anything in these games.
News flash for you black list have never worked beyond your little group of friends.

You're not going to believe this. Get ready for it. It's an optional tool!!!!! You don't have to use it. You can spam all you want and make your groups the old fashioned way.

I played WoW and Rift when this was implemented before and after. Literally saw no change.

I've been saying this for a long time. Even if you have a fully automated cross server system that is the end all and be all (as some thing) of LFGing and the same amount of people use it now as the current toll guess what it's not going to work as intended. I've asked a simple question in other threads like this and most ignore the question one or two answered with idiotic responses which tells me they aren't really wanting to group.

"If you log on right now and have a list of 20 players, of varying roles, all wanting to do the exact same flashpoint that you want to do right now can you get a group going quickly?"

The answer I got was "No because I don't want to lead a group."

I did a guide called LFG Tool A HOWTO. What it can and cannot do. to help educate people about the tool. Also this guy took it a step further with suggestions for improvement in his thread Group Mission Queue (Dungeon Finder) Pane Concept with a Concept LFG Tool for us to see.

Bottom line some of us truly wish to make this game better by working with what we have, helping others use the tools to get what they need done and make well thought out suggestions to add to the game instead of cry and complain with no constructive suggestions and jump ship because they didn't get something that's in WoW.


Ok I'll bite. Let me ask you this. Go on WoW and "Spam over general." Tell me what will happen. I'll let you know before it does and you will come back and confirm it. You'll get a bunch of "There's a LFG tool noob!" And if you say you don't like it and want to form a group the "old way" they'll laugh at you say good luck and ignore you.

I don't like spamming LFG in general and none of the suggestions I've made or the one I linked above requires you any general chat spamming. What I want is to be able to make friend through playing with them in flashpoints and warzones where I can team up with them later for instanced and non instanced content or even just shoot the breeze. THAT'S why I'm against cross server.

I hate PUGs and random dungeon finders, but I also hate abortion but politically support it, so that being said, adding one is a step in the right direction in this day and age with the increased interest in endgame progressions over social outlets.

nice try
but people will use system that works
current is worthless
world is cruel
deal with it
and i want cross-server-everything to play the real massive multiplayer game

you ppl is sacrifice for greater good, deal with it

And you missed my point. Not going to waste my time explaining again after making it simple the first time.