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chaosdefined
03.16.2012 , 10:35 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Raximillian View Post
You are implying that you cannot enjoy your AC, unless you have more options with it and can change your AC? If you need AC change to really enjoy a class, then the problem may be something else. I find all the ACs to be enjoyable by themselves.

The "I need to go through the game to play another AC" argument does not hold water... I could apply the same argument to lobby for Inquisitor to Bounty hunter change, because I pretty much have to play the same game to get another to lvl 50 (minus a few class parts)...

Again, there has to be a balance, and a limit. Going too far will just open the door for more things. AC change, then class change, faction change, companion change, gear change? I think drawing the limit at not allowing AC change is a good place for me.
That's also a tiresome argument, I'm sorry. Would you say because they're bringing in Dual-Spec that's opened the flood doors for everything from AC Change to full on Class Change?
No. And that's the same as what we're saying.

What I'm saying is that if someone doesn't not enjoy their AC they don't have the choice to at least change it once. They have to replay everything they've already done and that isn't fun.

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defiantlegacy
03.16.2012 , 10:36 AM | #62
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name a game that allows you to play a tank a healer and a DPS off of one toon? ok fair point. now name me a successful one
Um.... WoW?


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grandmthethird
03.16.2012 , 10:46 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by defiantlegacy View Post
Um.... WoW?


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never heard of it. is it a big game? popular? ok now name one we all would have heard of and not so niche market game
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chaosdefined
03.16.2012 , 10:47 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by grandmthethird View Post
never heard of it. is it a big game? popular? ok now name one we all would have heard of and not so niche market game
It's unfortunate that you can't just admit when someone has defeated your argument and instead resort to this sort of reply.

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defiantlegacy
03.16.2012 , 10:49 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by grandmthethird View Post
never heard of it. is it a big game? popular? ok now name one we all would have heard of and not so niche market game
Back to the drawing board you go sir
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grandmthethird
03.16.2012 , 10:54 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
It's unfortunate that you can't just admit when someone has defeated your argument and instead resort to this sort of reply.
did the smileys not show up on your comp

worried smiley-did i get away with such a ridiculous claim as to not know what WoW is
sticking out tongue smiley-try and pretend i am in the right
big grin smiley-walk away i think i got away with that one

it was ment in good humor and fun. sometimes the forums are such a serious place
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chaosdefined
03.16.2012 , 10:57 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by grandmthethird View Post
did the smileys not show up on your comp

worried smiley-did i get away with such a ridiculous claim as to not know what WoW is
sticking out tongue smiley-try and pretend i am in the right
big grin smiley-walk away i think i got away with that one

it was ment in good humor and fun. sometimes the forums are such a serious place
It's very difficult to tell someone's tone of voice on a comment on a forum. Especially when we've been having a fair few responses from other people that were less good humour, so excuse me for misunderstanding you there.

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Raximillian
03.16.2012 , 10:59 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
That's also a tiresome argument, I'm sorry. Would you say because they're bringing in Dual-Spec that's opened the flood doors for everything from AC Change to full on Class Change?
No. And that's the same as what we're saying.

What I'm saying is that if someone doesn't not enjoy their AC they don't have the choice to at least change it once. They have to replay everything they've already done and that isn't fun.
A single time change is something I could agree with... To an extent. Up to level 20 for example. I even believe BW had plans for that back on beta. I acan agree to this in the case that someone made an error. But not under other circumstances.

Finding a class you like is also part of the game. It's not really BWs fault that people level an assassin to lvl 50, and THEN find out they do not like a stealth melee class and want a caster? All arguments have holes you know...

People need to play the game and find what they like. They need to make some choices, and live with them. If they were bad choices, well, they were bad choices. BW is not "penalizing" anyone if they leveled a class they did not like to 50, they would be penalizing themselves.

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Talizzar
03.16.2012 , 11:01 AM | #69
Mr. OP if you have 2 million creds then you have all sorts of time to level another toon. You have chosen not to do this and would like an entire game changed because you don't want to.

Some games once you hit max level you can choose to start your next toon at say 40 thus reducing the grind to max. I doubt we will see this with the legacy system as you would be cheating yourself out of levels.

The issue is that once you get off the starter worlds there is one path to level and yes after the Xth time it is really boring. The game is pretty decent the first couple of times through it after that not so much.

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chaosdefined
03.16.2012 , 11:05 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Raximillian View Post
A single time change is something I could agree with... To an extent. Up to level 20 for example. I even believe BW had plans for that back on beta. I acan agree to this in the case that someone made an error. But not under other circumstances.

Finding a class you like is also part of the game. It's not really BWs fault that people level an assassin to lvl 50, and THEN find out they do not like a stealth melee class and want a caster? All arguments have holes you know...

People need to play the game and find what they like. They need to make some choices, and live with them. If they were bad choices, well, they were bad choices. BW is not "penalizing" anyone if they leveled a class they did not like to 50, they would be penalizing themselves.
Well you don't get your main set of abilities until around level 20 and by then you've invested at least a few days of playtime into levelling. That's why I said a one last chance option for level 50, so by then you've done the game as that AC and really got a feel of it.

The problem, as has been said, is you don't get a proper chance to get a feel for your AC until you've been playing for a considerable amount of time.

Perhaps a one time only option to change at level 25 then, as by then you've got to test out the AC.

Or like I said Faction Change.