This game badly needs mods and macros.

Too many blanket generalizations in this thread. Mods and macros are helpful to those that need them. Those that use them effectively can rarely be "outplayed" by a non macro/mod user.

Content becomes balanced around the usage of mods/macros. Simple fact of life. Guilds base acceptance upon using certain mods and macros. Simple fact of life. Not everyone who uses them are elitist scum. Not everyone who uses too many are casuals. Not every casual uses 40 when 3 would do jim dandy.

In a game as purportedly easy as this one is, I fail to understand why so many wish to have macros/mods. They DO trivialize content in every game I have played that allowed their use. Run content without them, master them, then run content with them.

Sure, most mods are just frivolous trash used for personal customization. UI, menu functions, snazzy sounds, MP3 players... whatever.

Mods that announce, tell you when to do what where, target for you, and generally reduce the amount of thought/actions you must take force developers to step up and attempt to overload encounters to account for those addons that make the game more "fun".

Mod introduction doesn't allow choice to players. It's just like talent specs, gearing, etc.. You are pigeonholed. Choice fades, and status quo is eventually achieved. Those who don't fit the mold are bounced, regardless of how well they handle situations without conforming.

I personally don't care. I'll use what I can to make my screen pretty. If they had one like EpicMusicPlayer, I'll totally use that. Controlling mp3 selection while tanking is awesome.

If at any point I am removed from a raid.. that I have completed on ALL difficulties.. due to an addon check mod that shows I don't possess a mod I have never used... meh. I'll watch movies on Hulu.

I played FFXI for 7 years before going to WoW. Ran my own linkshell and ran countless raids. You know nothing about me sir, don't presume to either.

Popularity contest? I care not for crap like that, it's a game, I want it to stay that way. FFXI had NO add-ons and the game is great. WoW was the first MMORPG I ever played that used Add-ons. You sir seem to be the one on a high-horse. How's the weather up there?

At what time did I mention anything about casual game players not using Add-ons or mods?

That would be TheNdoki post that said anything to do with casuals. Don't misquote me, that's how misinformation that you so highly speak of spreads.

You already said all that about FFXI. Not new. And what makes you think you're the only poster in this thread? And everything's about you? Paragraph following your quote was over. Get over yourself. I don't care about addons but right now the UI does NOT match the content. It's that simple.

It's a discussion, that's how a thread progresses. Rebuttal, look it up. If you don't like what I have to say put me on ignore, it won't stop me from voicing MY opinion.

oh btw wow-player in it for something different to wow. haven't found it yet. I've played a hunter and run group content so companions aren't a completely and ground-breakingly new experience and yes, I made a character after cata dropped so ridiculously easy content is nothing new here. Next-Gen MMO is still an MMO and could use some features similar to other MMO's. Playing a game in an old-school playstyle is something I can do an any game be it optional or not, nothing Next-Gen about that, nothing new or different here. A community of players that all want different things from the game, or not interested in identical aspects of the game, nothing new here. Layout of default action bars complete with them up the side - hmm where have I seen that before? Loading screen after loading screen? oooooooh right, that free-to-play game that couldn't afford big servers. Games without addons? Oh but what they DO have are spammable heals that you put on players before they take damage and the heal kicks in after they do. The other game? Players using massive lists of macros. Sound effects/boss emotes or warning systems that make you feel excited like something's going on that makes you feel more involved? Seen it, just not here. Player behaviour blamed on a lack of or implementation of a feature? Nothing new here. Players complaining about class balance? No addons, no logs no nothing yet still here. Players not reacting to content? No addons here to train people not to react unless an addon tells them to and never have played a game where they were in and still the same problems. Elitists? Still here.

So what IS new? So few people in an MMO, including EQ WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT DIDN'T EVEN EXIST ANYMORE. No matter when you play. No matter where you are. That bringing in features known to be casual-friendly which have been blamed for the dumbing down and making things too accessible to bad people was something that had to be held back while the game is new in case the casuals get scared away. OK that is new. Story-driven MMO? Stories make sense when you read/listen to them and have the background info before you play and make some sort of effort. So no, nothing new here. Exhaustion zones in the middle of the land? OK that one's new.

I don't believe that this game needs any type of mods or macros. So many people complain that it's to easy enough as it is, and then these same people are demanding mods and macros, and other addons/meters in other posts, so they can "optimize" (read as letting someone/something else do the thinking/work for them) their characters so they can beat the game easier.

There was one poster that actually said all this was need to Min/Max their characters because BW used these tools to create the FP/OPs and therefore they needed them so they could have the same tools to beat it.

Learn the game, play the characters, develop the character as you see fit and don't make this game fall into the same "Cookie Cutter" mold as some other games people want this to emulate.

People have beat the OPs on NM and they had no mods/macros/logs(which you will get your own personal one)/addons, so what's the fuss?

Don't nerf stick the game I have come over to play because they (may) have nerf sticked yours to boredom.

Please BioWare, No More Logs (full any one can view/see/expanded), Macros, Key Bindings, Mods, Addons, etc...

Thank You

Sorry, dropped the rest of the block wall.

Could you ever send your Pet, not Companion, off to do skill of crafting, gathering, or missions for you as you continued to enjoy your questing/FP/OP/game play? No, didn't think so, I couldn't with my hunters either.

Yes, after Cata dropped, but they had already nerf sticked it into the ground before that. That is what followed, and what follows next? (shudder).

Lmfao get mad

Every game i have seen that use Mods and macros end up being lag fest and people abuse them. I for one do not see any need for them to be in this game ever. Yes there are many things that need a good fix but to have a macro do it all for you is rather lame. If ya cant play the game for yourself maybe you should go back to junk WOW Not trying to be rude or dog on anyone who does want Mods and macros (or liked WOW).

Why pay to watch a program play a game for you(and yes it plays the game for you if your just sitting there watching)? or is it that you want to be lvl 50 farming things with your macro while you sleep? If so play the game and learn it a lot more fun that way and you may feel good about doing it for yourself lol

quick! somebody make an auctioneer mod! that way i can have dirt cheap mat prices in a couple weeks.