Expertise scales better for healers

Why's that

Too many reasons to list. Compare and contrast every mmo that's ever been out. I'm not going in the mood to explain why healing needs to be greater than damage as that's irrelevant to the thread.

If it isn't, groups will always be better off with an additional DPSer instead of a healer.

Wrong but, to be clear-

U agree expertse favors healers

U put in your blog that dps was rly favored based on 'bonus dmg'

Then u got owned on the coeficient issue..

Now u retreat to "its suppose to be that way"


Lol, sry.. U lose.

First, I find it very amusing that everyone calls them talents. (myself included)

Second, I mentioned that particular skill because the justification for Dark Infusion having a ridiculously good coefficient is the incredibly long cast time. This is not a fair justification when a healer will almost never spend more than 1.5 seconds casting it. If anyone here is able to look at entire skill trees and sum up their total effect on the game and class balance, I'm sure BioWare offers a very competitive salary.

The shield is perhaps a red herring, but so is taking the best damaging attacks and comparing them to the worst heal.

It is hard to say if it is so much better due to it being a talent or simply due to it being a heal. This is because there are maybe 7 truly different heals in the game. Most healing classes just have duplicates of abilities other healing classes have and individual healers have...4(?) healing spells. This means there are not a lot of places where comparisons can be easily drawn between healing abilities and damaging abilities. But, if you look hard enough, you can probably find some damaging attack that has the exact same mechanics as each of the heals. In all of those cases, I am sure that the healing ability coefficient will be higher than the damaging ability's.

With that said, doesn't your bolded statement contradict your blog which states that primary stat scaling for heals is worse than scaling for damage, therefore extra scaling from expertise on heals only serves to balance this out?

heals are supposed to be higher than dmg. or whats the point if you cant keep anyone alive? NO ONE would heal if you could out damage uninterrupted heals.

1) It's not a contest, the fact you think so speaks volumes about your character. It's not about who is wrong or right, but about not spreading mis-information, which leads to nothing. The developers probably /facepalm when they read threads like this and this drowns out actual valuable threads.

2) My blogs were written long before this thread, and I've even predicted whiners like you would whine about expertise. Interesting how you're so predictable huh?

3) Read the coefficients argument again. Most of the abilities posted were abilities not used in pvp ... hmm ... I wonder why ... maybe because they suck. . Abilities used in pvp actually have a higher coefficient. It's amazing you didn't even get this. I blame the public education system.

4) You find 1 ability (that you spend 21 pts up the tree and has a longer cooldown) that beats it's not so identical dps counterpart. Have you the intellectual capacity to understand why it's better at 21 pts in the tree, or that it's better because the cooldown is longer? If you don't nothing I can do or say can help you understand basic mmo 101

5) Most pvpers intuitively know why healing is better than damage. Me introducing it into the argument is not a 'retreat to "its suppose to be that way"'. It's interesting that this is your argument.

6) QQ all you want. Most well made premades will not be running 4 healers. These are the metrics bioware will see. Your whining is entertaining though, and a nice diversion while waiting for the queue to pop.

This is the exact point of the thread. Heals already heal for more than damaging attacks deal, so as expertise increases (equally between the two combatants) the damaging attacks will fall further and further behind the heals until a healer cannot be killed 1v1. Now, the very low hard cap on expertise is currently preventing this, but if that cap is changed in the future as gear levels increase, then a problem will arise.

Related to this:

If the cap doesn't increase, new PvP gear tiers will either have to be identical to previous tiers or become significantly better for PvE than the current lower PvE tiers. BioWare has already stated that the latter will not be occurring, and the former would make new PvP tiers unnecessary/undesirable (and would result in higher PvE tiers dominating PvP).

nice predict, but hey i can predict that if i take a dump in the office fridg theres gona be an email. so gj on the predict of the obvios, ppl been sayin this for expertise since at least jan. its only now as more & more ppl are fully gear'd that more ppl see whats up.

but hey since u brung up

lets take a look @ what u did.. u picked 1 part of data, thats not at all the most importent data, and then ur like "SEE THIS MEANS EXPERTISE DONT REALLY MAKE HEALS OP". when rly the coeficient is more importent then the diffs in bonus u showed. so was that "mis-information" or u just bein a nub?

but basicaly all u got left, with all the data showing your wrong, is

...and yea most pvpers know if heal is to strong in a game. The more ppl got gear'd, the more QQ about heal we have seen, just as shown by the predicts from 2 months ago talking bout how expertiste stat favors heals to much.