This game badly needs mods and macros.

Co-ord points are already default, so that means there's even less work for them to do as they don't have to go through and develop it which forms the basis of these bots, or an alternative system. Any kind of hack or cheat, being another program, will always exist no matter what as they are not related to the game itself, and don't use methods open to the players legally. You might want to check out the room these people work in (they are actual jobs, with loads of computers all at a desk in offices most Government workers in First World countries would be totally jealous of). This whole "they're starving people working incredibly hard to earn the credits they sell in a legit way" assumption is completely and utterly wrong.

Which is, like I've said before, is a whole other reason why we NEED addons. An awful lot of sites with strat guides, loot guides, gear guides etc are run by these credit-sellers. One click on a link or using the wrong browser and simply opening up a page and bang. Compromised account. That really IS how accounts get hacked. It really would be so much safer to have some sort of guidance in-game about boss fights and strats, like what it is that's killing people etc.

So what you're saying is your point was irrelevant to the thread then since last I checked it's about addons.

So what if it does make the game easier? Some people like that. Also, I like the passive aggressiveness. Really makes you more worth listening to.

Well since nobody NEEDS addons (as many anti-addon posters in here will point out) there's no need for an alternative.

A wise man once said "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence." Just because you didn't know of any guilds doesn't mean none existed, it probably meant you just didn't look hard enough because it wasn't that important to you. Especially with bragging about your raiding scores it seems apparent you weren't a casual player. Either way though, I do know of guilds that did allow players to raid without needing addons, mine included.


Yeah because everyone has the same preference in UI style. Changing the layout is great and all, but it's a far cry from pleasing everyone.



Threat meter was meant to maximize dps without breaking in the first place, making the fights more manageable for all players, not just the tank. You were a pro-star, we get it, not everyone is.

Also this is all keeping in mind that blizzard added a threat meter themselves, AND nerfed the crap outta threat. I'm curious if your uber leet tanking was after the +200% tank aggro patch...



Oh yeah, let's put all the workload on BW who is already having issued keeping up with all the bugs and adding new content to keep people interested. Also you DO realize that most of those features Blizzard added wouldn't have happened without addons right? The best feedback isn't forum posts that nobody wants to sift through, it's third party addons. Instead of keeping a team of employees sifting through all these crap threads to maybe find a good suggestion, all they'd have to do is look at which addons are the most popular.

Sorry but I'm not about to put more work on bioware because I'm afraid someone might see my dps. I'd rather them have as much time and money as possible to make the game more interesting and less buggy.

And there's the dead horse again. Once again, nobody is being forced to use addons.

Of course, the problem here is that when addons become common, the game is then made to compensate for them in gameplay. It's the uber-competitive gamer's reflex to use whatever tools are available to get maximum performance. Add the addons and meters, the devs will now have to ramp up the difficulty level, and in the process they go from "optional" to "required". Don't believe me? Check what the requirements are for most hardcore WoW raider guilds. As they are, so we would become.

The only way not to need addons in the game is simple. Don't have addons. I'd rather the devs not have to work around random l33t guy's latest tool to automate actually playing the game and concentrate on making the game more fun for those of us who prefer run our characters, not six different extra programs that enhance our character's output to far beyond what is normally possible in the game UI.

The work they're doing to improve the UI satisfies me, by comparison.

Sorry, I didn't realize making the game more difficult was a bad thing, what with everyone on the forums screaming that this game is way to easy...

Funny how the "I NEED addons, mods and macros!" crowd ignores my posts letting them know that what ever their "needs" are they will not be met for a year or more according to the devs themselves.

They still whine about how the game is completely broken without them and how it can't be fun until they do exist. I guess the rest of us that don't give a damn about addons, mods and macros will continue to have our fun (suffer according to the whiners) while they go play something else until version 2.0 or later comes out.

In the mean time they will continuously whine about what ever game it was they moved to, comparing it to WoW in a daily basis and wishing secretly in their hearts that they had never left WoW to begin with.

Have fun with that.

no they're not. If you've ever downloaded and ran an executable file believing it's an addon then you're probably in a lot of trouble. Stick with the sites the community recommends or write them yourself. And move that all-important notepad file to the folder and it's installed.

Even my browser has plug-ins

The game being more difficult and the game being MADE more difficult because add-ons make it easier are two different scenarios.

this game needs rift syle macros..most of my guild( pvp guild) came from other games using simple 4-6 buttons mouse.. but now we've all had to buy a razer naga and have 30+ key bindings.. macros would make life so much easier...

Build it and they will come...

Generally speaking those who don't like to use addons are casuals, and casuals had their own difficulty level in WoW, it was called normal, and LFR. There were modes for both hardcore and regular players available, and everyone could experience all the game content at their own pace.

And if you think that addons were required to do endgame raiding in the LFR you've never tried it.

I like how you admit that not ALL guilds require it, but ignore that very point to make your argument. Sorry but when not all guilds need it, it stops being a requirement, and stops being forced on players. Finally with dungeons having multiple difficulty levels (which SWTOR already has as well) both hardcore and casual, addon users and non, can appreciate the game, so there's really no reason to fight them.


Because the game can become more difficult without the developers changing anything?