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Dungeon Finder Needed Badly


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Ranas
03.14.2012 , 07:39 AM | #861
Well, six days left on my game card, once it's done I am out until there are vast improvements to the game, I don't like having to sit around looking for a group, I don't want to wait for certain people to log on so I can do HM's...

BW just do it, stop listening to some programmers who got their feelings hurt in another MMO because of a x-server grouping, do what's right, some of us only get to play for an hour or two a night, I want to be able to log on, get a fast group, do a run or two in HM's and call it a day.

I do not give you my money to stand around and do nothing, unless this is the type of time sync you guys want, bad choice for making money if you ask me, just do what you know needs to be done, and maybe, just maybe, some people will come back, but what do i know about a video game business, I'm just the guy sitting around wasting my time because some programmer is all worried someone might call me a noob and make me cry...

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BoneEater
03.14.2012 , 12:18 PM | #862
Just finished Agent storyline. I had a lot of fun with it, good ending also.

That said, I just cancelled and hope that 1.3 introduces a good, solid LFG. I'll be running around in Azeroth again till then.

Have fun.
. Never forget

"Use the force Harry." -Gandalf

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Guadalupe
03.14.2012 , 07:00 PM | #863
I am also close to ending my sub. Finding groups on low pop servers is really challenging. Had 3/4 last night looking for a DPS on the fleet for 45 minutes and no one replied. Tried again to find a group as a healer for 45 mins tonight...nothing. Groups that did express interest didnt think I had the gear for it despite having healed almost every hardmode that wasnt bugged (cough D7). I love this game alot but there isnt enough going on right now to keep me going.

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Moricthian
03.14.2012 , 11:30 PM | #864
I just can't help but laugh at the fact that BW finally figured out how important the LFG tool is. It's baffles me that it took them this long. I just hope they make it just like the PvP que or else i'm going to stay unsubbed.

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Touchbass
03.14.2012 , 11:32 PM | #865
Quote: Originally Posted by Moricthian View Post
I just can't help that BW finally figured out how important the LFG tool is. It's baffles me that it took them this long. I just hope they make it just like the PvP que or else i'm going to stay unsubbed.
It's single server only and most likely won't be automated and also it won't be out until at least June at the earliest. Major F*** up Bioware

EDIT: did you just edit your post to add in 'laughter'? lol
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Touchbass
03.14.2012 , 11:35 PM | #866
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
Ok firstly I'd love to read more into where they got the information that people playing SWTOR were playing it for double the amount of time people were playing games like Skyrim.

Secondly, they clearly didn't do any bloody research into how fast people consume content in an MMO.
Yeah, I'd really like to see this research first hand.
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Touchbass
03.14.2012 , 11:38 PM | #867
" I think that’s ok though because what we’re finding is that people at level 50 have a really good opinion of the game, even people who quit. "

That's from the interview, ***? lol. Is he out to lunch?
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Moricthian
03.15.2012 , 12:10 AM | #868
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
It's single server only and most likely won't be automated and also it won't be out until at least June at the earliest. Major F*** up Bioware

EDIT: did you just edit your post to add in 'laughter'? lol
lol, i did because i realized my original post didn't make any sense.

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Darnu
03.15.2012 , 02:17 AM | #869
Quote: Originally Posted by BlueSkittles View Post
Some more LFG info from an interview with James Ohlen:

"Ten Ton Hammer: So possibly before 1.3?

James Ohlen: At the earliest, it would be 1.3. We’re aiming for a shorter turnaround time for 1.3 than the time between 1.1 and 1.2.

Ten Ton Hammer: So what do you prioritize after you get 1.2 out the door?

James Ohlen: Well, that was part of the guild summit. One of the things that we found that was really important was the dungeon finder or group finder. That was a gain of learning in that when the game launched, I was like, “Alright, we’re going to have a whole bunch of fans playing the game and it’ll probably take them 3-4 months until level 50 becomes the place where a majority of where the people are as that we have over 200 hours of leveling time.” But then the average gameplay session turned out to be 6 hours, which is ridiculous. We hired an independent group to do a measurement and they said that it was higher than any other game that EA has ever done. It’s higher than Skyrim by double, it’s higher than any other MMO that we’ve ever measured. Fans play the game and they played for 6 hours.

People just raced through the content and suddenly we had tons of people at the end-game. At which point, the dungeon finder became much more important because when you’re at the end-game, you want to do the group content and group content requires you to find a group. So we pushed that up in priority really quick based upon the telemetry showing us how many fans were getting to level 50. That was a surprise to us. It was both a good and bad surprise. Good in that people are obviously having tons of fun with the game. Bad in that they’re getting to level 50 much faster than our expectations were. I think that’s ok though because what we’re finding is that people at level 50 have a really good opinion of the game, even people who quit. When they quit at level 50, a huge percentage…and I’ve talked with they Mythic guys who have telemetry going back over a decade…and they’ve never seen numbers like those in our exit surveys. One of our questions is would you come back to the game, and the percentage is huge. It means that even though people are racing through the game and get to the end and they have a chance to leave, they want to come back. Which is good because it means that when we give them reasons to come back, they will. That’s kind of our strategy. We want to make sure that fans love the game. They don’t have to go through a grind, they don’t feel like they have to work to make it fun. So even if they do lapse, they have a good taste in their mouth. They do want to return to the game at some point.
"

http://swtorhub.com/dash-everything-...ew-james-ohlen
This worries me. I haven't played Mythic or know too much about it (somehow I missed that one) but I fail to see how they missed that 6 hours minimum playtime when levelling up, which is what we're all doing, is a surprise and something they could have missed. Surely they would have realized that when levelling people do it as quickly as the content allows and play as much as is necessary to see/do as much as they can? Especially when it's all new?

Have they never been an MMO player in a guild with other people and seen how much people play especially when there's new content out? I understand there are a lot of raiders who do only log on for their scheduled times and other than that very rarely, but surely they've played other games like Rift, EQ GW, Aion, or even *cough cough* world of warcraft? And from talking to players they know that when people aren't playing they're working/looking after family (which kind of gets done pretty easily while playing an MMO)/playing other games and sleep gets a lower priority? And why most people don't play seriously much on weekends hence most guild activities are during the week? Except schoolkids which this game doesn't allow?

so much of what they've said screams they don't really understand MMORPG players etc and the reasoning that it's their first is a little silly. Not too many companies have/will ever attempt more than one because of what's involved in creating/making/maintaining them.

Edit: had friends that play (ok you got me - played) Skyrim. Took them about 9 hours total to finish the story. Don't think that's a good model for Bioware to look at... for ummmm ANYTHING for an MMO.

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ConradLionhart
03.15.2012 , 03:26 AM | #870
Single-server LFD that doesn't port you to the flashpoint is fine.

I want to be able to find a group for Cademimu while I continue doing missions on say Tatooine. I don't want to have to fly to the Republic Fleet to find a group.

Only when I've found a group, then I'll fly to the Republic Fleet for the flashpoint. But in the mean time, I would like the freedom to do missions on planets.