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Bioware,how are you going to make sure people dont spam pvp and get war hero in aweek

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Bioware,how are you going to make sure people dont spam pvp and get war hero in aweek

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Niil
03.14.2012 , 09:49 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Sugarray View Post
I agree.

It is a shame for people with DC problems but I for one feel like its a necessary step.
I'm glad you two agree with each other, but unfortunately your agreement is not going to result in a penalty for people. Bioware *might* implement a deserter style debuff. They've already stated they intend to try to resolve the situation by providing incentives to stick a game out, whether or not it's a win or loss and eliminating the incentives for people to farm medals and drag games out at the expense of the other team. They certainly aren't going to go further than that at any point. By that, I mean they're not going to remove valor, credits, or anything else. And anyone who feels as I do is just going to swap toons or just do something else for a few minutes while the debuff wears off.

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Agemnon
03.14.2012 , 09:50 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by XOrionX View Post
It was my understanding that War Hero gear would not be purchasable with comms or tokens, and that gear could only be obtained after gaining a certain rank on the ELO system.

To me, this system works for the hardcore and casuals. THe hardcore get to show of their shiny gear and the casuals have something to strive for.
Maybe an ELO of over 9000?

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KiranK
03.14.2012 , 09:51 PM | #53
They're not going to do anything about getting war hero gear fast, and thank god for that. Your decision to PvP for 10x the amount of hours I do doesn't entitle you to any advantage other than real experience. You don't deserve better gear for your time.
There's no QQing in baseball.

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Niil
03.14.2012 , 09:52 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Sugarray View Post
No you dont need my approval, I just hope that eventually devs will make sure people like you suffer the consequences for their actions.

Fyi, your actions are some of the things that can contribute to multiple losses. The game isnt won in the first 2min.
As I stated, I don't bail for the hell of it. I bail if *I* make the assessment that the game isn't worth the time and the game isn't entertaining enough disregarding potential rewards to entice me to stay. Any game that has multiple 12k club fresh 50's versus a BM premade is a lost cause, regardless of how long I stay. I don't pay to play this game to entertain other people at my expense.

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Sugarray
03.14.2012 , 09:56 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Niil View Post
As I stated, I don't bail for the hell of it. I bail if *I* make the assessment that the game isn't worth the time and the game isn't entertaining enough disregarding potential rewards to entice me to stay. Any game that has multiple 12k club fresh 50's versus a BM premade is a lost cause, regardless of how long I stay. I don't pay to play this game to entertain other people at my expense.
Sure it can be very frustrating. But it just seems like you dont care about anyone els than yourself, and if everyone have that attitude and insist on playing MMO how much fun are we gonna have?

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Sugarray
03.14.2012 , 09:59 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by KiranK View Post
They're not going to do anything about getting war hero gear fast, and thank god for that. Your decision to PvP for 10x the amount of hours I do doesn't entitle you to any advantage other than real experience. You don't deserve better gear for your time.
I deserve full Rakata gear when I get my alt to lvl 50, I dont want to spend a lot of hours farming raids or learn tactics. You dont deserve better gear than me just because you bothered to put in an effort.

Right..

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Niil
03.14.2012 , 10:04 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Sugarray View Post
Sure it can be very frustrating. But it just seems like you dont care about anyone els than yourself, and if everyone have that attitude and insist on playing MMO how much fun are we gonna have?
It's a matter of time investment. As I stated, if this happened once in a while it wouldn't be an issue. On the other hand, I've sat for an 8 hour Sunday stretch of gaming doing house work and watching tv between queue pops and barely completed the 3 win daily. Of that, 1 I won because I got on a premade and we demolished the other team, 1 I won because the other team was trying to double pre-made in and it failed so the one 4-man premade bailed, resulting in us seeing 1 person the entire match, the other was a very close Civil War that we won by 30 points. I'm done sitting through the pain that is pre-mades vs solo queues, unless I happen to recognize the players I'm teamed with and think that we have a chance. Maybe the gear disparity will be fixed by the next patch, but as of right now fresh 50's are a waste of a slot versus champion geared players, let alone battlemaster (and pre-mades just make that worse, they have no place fighting against solo queues) and I have no interest in playing a game that's a loss before it even began.

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Sugarray
03.14.2012 , 10:07 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Niil View Post
It's a matter of time investment. As I stated, if this happened once in a while it wouldn't be an issue. On the other hand, I've sat for an 8 hour Sunday stretch of gaming doing house work and watching tv between queue pops and barely completed the 3 win daily. Of that, 1 I won because I got on a premade and we demolished the other team, 1 I won because the other team was trying to double pre-made in and it failed so the one 4-man premade bailed, resulting in us seeing 1 person the entire match, the other was a very close Civil War that we won by 30 points. I'm done sitting through the pain that is pre-mades vs solo queues, unless I happen to recognize the players I'm teamed with and think that we have a chance. Maybe the gear disparity will be fixed by the next patch, but as of right now fresh 50's are a waste of a slot versus champion geared players, let alone battlemaster (and pre-mades just make that worse, they have no place fighting against solo queues) and I have no interest in playing a game that's a loss before it even began.
The only thing 1.2 will do for you, is remove your ability to spot bad/fresh 50's. You'll still lose if they are in your team.

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Niil
03.14.2012 , 10:11 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Sugarray View Post
The only thing 1.2 will do for you, is remove your ability to spot bad/fresh 50's. You'll still lose if they are in your team.
Actually, they're taking the onus off of winning the warzone being required to get the rewards for pvp'ing. The same thing people are in this thread complaining about. Which is something that might actually get me to stick it out because I'll know it's not a giant waste of time. Funny how that works.

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Sugarray
03.14.2012 , 10:15 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Niil View Post
Actually, they're taking the onus off of winning the warzone being required to get the rewards for pvp'ing. The same thing people are in this thread complaining about. Which is something that might actually get me to stick it out because I'll know it's not a giant waste of time. Funny how that works.
I must admit I dont understand that, can you rephrase?