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MuNieK
03.14.2012 , 06:38 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Dee-Jay View Post
People like you are the best example of why this community sucks.

Can't even have a decent discussion despite a well-written post and a valid complaint. It only takes a moment before morons like you spout out your "L2P" because you happen to disagree.


As for the OP, I happen to agree to an extent.

SWTORs abilities are still bloated and haven't gone through sufficient iterations yet. They need to be stream-lined and consolidated a little.

The "only usable vs. weak mobs" abilities should be the first to go and many others could be consolidated/merged into more interesting abilities.

Bladestorm/Scream could be a conal attack making Cyclone Smash redundant. Sundering Strike/Assault could have its CD removed, making Strike obsolete.

Just cutting/merging ~5 abilities per class would go a long way towards making this game a lot less convoluted.
Yeah the Strike/SunderingAssault is another perfect example... But as you see some people insetad of watching battlefield prefer watching bars, cooldowns and overlays acompanied with piano playing.

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Tomsem
03.14.2012 , 06:41 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by vimm View Post
I like the amount of abilities; it makes things interesting. If you really think Immortal Juggernaut has too many though, I'm very sad for you, lol.

Perhaps try Arsenal Mercenary?
don't quite get it why everybody thinks that merc arsenal is just using 3 or 4 buttons? I have keybinded 8 abilities on my mouse alone + 1234 Q, E, R, F, G, shift+ F.

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KrackenOne
03.14.2012 , 06:42 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by kenzeil View Post
You could always just play a mercenary and be one of those guys that only uses tracer missile.
I LOL'd.
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KrackenOne
03.14.2012 , 06:42 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Tomsem View Post
don't quite get it why everybody thinks that merc arsenal is just using 3 or 4 buttons? I have keybinded 6 abilities on my mouse alone + 1234 Q, E, R, F, G, shift+ F.
I LOL'd again.
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Karenai
03.14.2012 , 06:43 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Dee-Jay View Post
People like you are the best example of why this community sucks.

Can't even have a decent discussion despite a well-written post and a valid complaint. It only takes a moment before morons like you spout out your "L2P" because you happen to disagree.


As for the OP, I happen to agree to an extent.

SWTORs abilities are still bloated and haven't gone through sufficient iterations yet. They need to be stream-lined and consolidated a little.

The "only usable vs. weak mobs" abilities should be the first to go and many others could be consolidated/merged into more interesting abilities.

Bladestorm/Scream could be a conal attack making Cyclone Smash redundant. Sundering Strike/Assault could have its CD removed, making Strike obsolete.

Just cutting/merging ~5 abilities per class would go a long way towards making this game a lot less convoluted.
Throwing that right back at you.

Streamlining is the death of RPG. There is not much RPG left in MMOs when you have more possibilities to play one class in a shooter then a MMORPG.
Consolidating skills and removing CDs makes it a hack&slash not a RPG.
Yes, some classes have way too many usefull things you have to use at the right time, but calling for streamlining every class is just ignorance.

This aint no fluffybear island.

PS. I just checked. My Sage has 22 essential spells I have to use.+buffs, adrenals, relics and healpots. And that's in PvP only.

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Agemnon
03.14.2012 , 06:43 PM | #56
"The point is to make player often use only those keys:

Q,E,R,T,F,X,C,V,~,1,2,3,4, mouse3, mouse4"

I have ` for targeting allies, and find Z,W,D,S,B,,H,G and even J (for forcequake and XS freighter flyby depending on the class) for AoE abilities. For extra abilities I use Shift, such as shift + R for deliverance.

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Tomsem
03.14.2012 , 06:44 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by KrackenOne View Post
I LOL'd again.
lol'troll

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vimm
03.14.2012 , 06:45 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Tomsem View Post
don't quite get it why everybody thinks that merc arsenal is just using 3 or 4 buttons? I have keybinded 8 abilities on my mouse alone + 1234 Q, E, R, F, G, shift+ F.
I didn't say that, but it has by far the least amount of abilities.
geeR
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KrackenOne
03.14.2012 , 06:46 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Tomsem View Post
lol'troll
Watch it, I'll pop tracer!!!! :P

This thread is too funny. I've one of each, both are lame, grav and tracer. Tracer is by far more lame.

Someone wants to impress me, play sentinel <50 and not suck.
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Agemnon
03.14.2012 , 06:47 PM | #60
"The 'only usable vs. weak mobs' abilities should be the first to go and many others could be consolidated/merged into more interesting abilities."

Actually, headshot and tumult have saved me more times than I can think. Actually, I haven't used headshot in ages, thanks for reminding me not to allow my 3 key to rot
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