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If this game was not Star Wars would you still play?
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savagepotato
03.14.2012 , 07:24 AM | #41
Without a doubt no. I wouldn't have even gotten past trying it in beta. I gave it a lot of slack because of the star wars factor. And I'm losing both patience and hope.

My server is dying, my guild is dead, people are disappearing in increasing numbers. If 1.2 isn't basically an utter miracle of a patch I fear things are going to come to a grinding halt really fast.

It appears to me that Bioware felt people would stay interested in the game long enough for them to play catch up if they focused on making the voice overs as good as they possibly could. What they did do in my opinion was drastically cripple a key community development time.

I have never seen an MMO as quiet as this one. When I was leveling I could go hours without ever seeing a scrap of text in general chat, even when there were relatively a lot of people on. (The most I've ever seem in a single zone on my server is about 170 people, ever.) My experience was that people came for the story, and didn't want anyone else in their way while they went through it. There's just so little desire for cooperation with people.

And the lack of any features that bring people together is at the heart of this. There isn't even a guild bank to foster a sense of cooperation. Crafting being meaningless also killing any desire to collaborate on it. Roleplay features are abysmal at best. A handfull of bad emotes, and a chat interface that makes it a nightmare to hold any kind of gathering.

I know, like weve been told, oh just wait for the 1.2 patch. Honestly, I don't see as much hope there as some do. It looks like they thought giving people a reason to alt more would be a compelling fix. Sure, 1.2 might give enough to keep people on the hook for a little bit more, but at the end of the day the initial chance for the community to gel feels broken. I don't really have the energy to pick up and roll an alt on a server that isn't dead and try to make a go of it again from scratch. The best part of any mmo to me is always the initial wonderment of everything being new and meeting new people that are all excited about playing.

That is where this game missed the mark. It didn't get people excited about playing together, it just got them to grind out their story for their own entertainment and lose interest.

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Galbatorrix
03.14.2012 , 07:31 AM | #42
Yes.


I'm always playng and MMO and this one has...

- Best story of any MMO.
- Best animations of any MMO.
- Tons of reason to create an alt in this one compared to other games (Altaholic here).


The game is just a lot of fun for me. I've done more PVP than I did in 7 years of WOW. I'm actually experiencing story through quests instead of just mindlessly running from quest hub to quest hub. I have way more of a connection to my character and feel like the character is more of an important part of the universe.

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Galbatorrix
03.14.2012 , 07:34 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by savagepotato View Post
Without a doubt no. I wouldn't have even gotten past trying it in beta. I gave it a lot of slack because of the star wars factor. And I'm losing both patience and hope.

My server is dying, my guild is dead, people are disappearing in increasing numbers. If 1.2 isn't basically an utter miracle of a patch I fear things are going to come to a grinding halt really fast.

It appears to me that Bioware felt people would stay interested in the game long enough for them to play catch up if they focused on making the voice overs as good as they possibly could. What they did do in my opinion was drastically cripple a key community development time.

I have never seen an MMO as quiet as this one. When I was leveling I could go hours without ever seeing a scrap of text in general chat, even when there were relatively a lot of people on. (The most I've ever seem in a single zone on my server is about 170 people, ever.) My experience was that people came for the story, and didn't want anyone else in their way while they went through it. There's just so little desire for cooperation with people.

And the lack of any features that bring people together is at the heart of this. There isn't even a guild bank to foster a sense of cooperation. Crafting being meaningless also killing any desire to collaborate on it. Roleplay features are abysmal at best. A handfull of bad emotes, and a chat interface that makes it a nightmare to hold any kind of gathering.

I know, like weve been told, oh just wait for the 1.2 patch. Honestly, I don't see as much hope there as some do. It looks like they thought giving people a reason to alt more would be a compelling fix. Sure, 1.2 might give enough to keep people on the hook for a little bit more, but at the end of the day the initial chance for the community to gel feels broken. I don't really have the energy to pick up and roll an alt on a server that isn't dead and try to make a go of it again from scratch. The best part of any mmo to me is always the initial wonderment of everything being new and meeting new people that are all excited about playing.

That is where this game missed the mark. It didn't get people excited about playing together, it just got them to grind out their story for their own entertainment and lose interest.
Reroll on a heavy server. Trust me, it's NOTHING like you're talking about. I sometimes have to turn off gen chat on my two servers because people are talking nonstop about everything. Fleet has constant "LFG" spam going and most of the leveling worlds have 30-75 or more people even on off nights. It's crazy how different it is.

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BenjaminminU
03.14.2012 , 07:36 AM | #44
No:
1. Its not star wars
2. i signed up to play a star wars game
3. star wars galaxies would still be running and i'd have signed back up for that.
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SnakeBites
03.14.2012 , 07:40 AM | #45
Yes, because simply i give all MMO's a go. I'm not even a Star Wars fan.

But

No matter what IP this game has on it, it would always have been a "filler" game until GW2 came out.

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Galbatorrix
03.14.2012 , 07:43 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
Of course not and anyone who says yes is a liar or someone who plays for the single player experience.

1. Missing almost every single modern MMO feature.

2. See 1

3. See 1


Uh... I've quested solo. I've quested in groups. I've done FPs, I've PVPed. I'm not even in a guild and pug everything and I've had no issues finding groups for FPs or HQs.

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Sentanta
03.14.2012 , 07:43 AM | #47
No I wouldn't play this if it wasn't Star Wars because;

1. The game has too many small annoyances - bugs in class quests, bad graphics such as clipping - npcs pulling blasters out of their legs etc, crappy looking gear (especially the pvp endgame gear), crappy customer service, one maintenance downtime for all locations (which is just cheap and lazy imo), crappy engine etc, etc - but they all add up.

2. I have never played a Bioware Game before and from their amateur looking efforts with this I probably wont play another of their games.

3. If this game wasn't Star Wars they wouldn't have shut down SWG when they did and I would be playing that instead!
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Tiaa
03.14.2012 , 07:44 AM | #48
I think the title should be "Would you TRY this game"....but anyways...

I'd probably try it, even if it wasn't SWTOR, because I am a MMO fan first and foremost.

Also, I don't care that much for the Star Wars IP after the first three movies.

Furthermore, this game does nothing positive for the Star Wars IP.


Though I don't purchase Bioware games anymore,...

...when I liked them I would have tried it because of that regardless of the IP.

I will not continue this game because as an avid MMO player, this game, in my opinion...

...is a blight on the MMO genre as a whole.

I don't play MMO's to solo and I sure don't play them for empty dead servers.


Though my sub is up in 6 days, I MAY give this game a try in future if things look good.

Also

Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Reroll on a heavy server.
Why do people think it's even rational to ask someone who devoted their time leveling, playing with friends on a server and probably joining a guild on a server to "REROLL ON ANOTHER SERVER"?

Everyone doesn't want to REROLL so stop trying to blame players for BIOWARES mistakes.

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Reico
03.14.2012 , 07:46 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by BenjaminminU View Post
No:
1. Its not star wars
2. i signed up to play a star wars game
3. star wars galaxies would still be running and i'd have signed back up for that.

So true

the jilted Star Wars: Galaxies crowd, still pining for their ill-starred sandbox that went the way of Alderaan last December.
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Neoscrilla
03.14.2012 , 07:48 AM | #50
If it was not Star Wars it would probably keep me longer because my expectations would be lower. I care not about the Star Wars franchise, I care about MMOs. I play this game because it is a MMO and because a few of my friends have a ***** for Star Wars.
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