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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

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dondiwayne
03.13.2012 , 03:40 PM | #591
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Problem 1 with your thinking. MMOs are designed for casual players, not serious players. Casual players have much less opportunity to do what you suggest but still want to do FPs.
With the "serious players" i do not refer to hardcore professional gamers i simply refer to players who play in a mature way, with a certain know-how of their class, without flaming, respect for common loot agrees and all around social abilities.

You say "casual" players. I would like to know what you consider a "casual" player, someone who plays 2 hours a day? 2 hours a week? 2 hours a month?

I see myself as a casual player, some would not agree, I play around 20 hours a week on average but there are days where i play not at all and days where i play 10 hours.

There was and will be content i can't reach due to time matters or skill matters and i do not care about it.

I also play football and i do not complain about not being able to go to the world cup and that is what people basically ask, they want to be able to do every content without proper time investment and skill.

Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
Problem 2 with your thinking. In the hundreds, if not thousands, of LFG groups I participated in, in WoW less than 5% had this sort of bad player in them. Probably way less than 5%. Saying we shouldn't get X-Server LFG because a few bads might pop into your precious group is like saying we shouldn't go outside because we might get stung by a bee. It's infrequent at worst. It's easy to deal with (boot the baddie or leave the group and requeue). It's optional (don't use LFG if you're afraid of bees).

First of all that is your experience, not mine and not everyones.

I had a lot of bad experiences with LFG and can't agree with you, which is my opinion.

I can understand some of the arguments who are pro LFG but i position myself in an anti LFG area. I will tolerate it, if a LFG will get introduced but i try to debate that it will not come to it. All i see is hate on this thread, some people simply need to understand some peoples views. I understand the pro LFGers but i do not agree with them.

I personally like to chose whom i group with and with a LFG tool i simply can't.

Boot the baddie, yes, so he can requeue and annoy the next group. There are simply things which are unachievable for some people and should be for a reason or do you want a mentally retarded one to exercise neural chirurgy simply because he wants to see the "content"?

Saying it is optional is polemic at its best. Once introduced it is not optional anymore, noone will form groups the normal way anymore. While levelling you won't meet people, since everyone uses LFG.


PS: The only good thing about LFG were the laughters me and my friends had on some of the randoms who got matched to us...people who played so bad it was simply funny to watch them, with completely wrong gemmed and enchanted gear or not gemmed and enchanted at all. I had some good laughs indeed...

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ferroz
03.13.2012 , 06:05 PM | #592
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
And you will be limiting yourself. I choose not to.
you choose to limit yourself to the server; I choose not to (or, I'd like to and will continue to try and convince BW that they should allow me to).

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ferroz
03.13.2012 , 06:14 PM | #593
Quote: Originally Posted by dondiwayne View Post
You say "casual" players. I would like to know what you consider a "casual" player, someone who plays 2 hours a day? 2 hours a week? 2 hours a month?
None of those. Casual players are the players who aren't "serious players"

they play....

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All i see is hate on this thread, some people simply need to understand some peoples views.
You could always stop reading some of the anti-cross server posts if you've had your fill of hate...

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I personally like to chose whom i group with and with a LFG tool i simply can't.
false. I have friends who always choose who they group with in wow; likewise, I would choose the people I grouped with about 50% of the time in wow (I like pugging with random people so I didn't do that all the time). wow has an lfg tool. ergo, it is possible to choose who you group with when using an lfg tool.



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Saying it is optional is polemic at its best. Once introduced it is not optional anymore, noone will form groups the normal way anymore.
No, lots of people still form groups in wow without using the lfg tool; my suspicion is that the majority of people do, in fact.


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While levelling you won't meet people, since everyone uses LFG.
I don't see anyone while leveing now...

I actually ran into more people while leveing my hunter than I have with my jedi knight, and I started him well after the leveling curve for goblins during cata.

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DarthKhaos
03.13.2012 , 06:31 PM | #594
Quote: Originally Posted by theoffspringlp View Post
That's exactly what those of us looking for cross-server lfg would like to do to. The existence of cross-server lfg should have no effect on you playing the way you want to play. The only way this becomes more or less mandatory is if they start giving out incentives to run lfg, which is where I believe wow messed up (and even there, you COULD still find a group of people from your server and just sign up for randoms with them, so it's not a very compelling argument). So please explain to me how this would stop you from playing the way you want.
And I have showed how it will.


Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
you choose to limit yourself to the server; I choose not to (or, I'd like to and will continue to try and convince BW that they should allow me to).
If you're going to quote me do it in the right context. The person I responded to said if we want community find a guild.
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Smudgersmith
03.13.2012 , 06:46 PM | #595
The moment BW brings in a LFG system i quit anything pve or i just quit like i did with wow when bliz brought in LFR system.

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ferroz
03.13.2012 , 06:56 PM | #596
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
If you're going to quote me do it in the right context. The person I responded to said if we want community find a guild.
So, by "right context" you mean not in a way that makes you look like a hypocrite... eh?

he told you what to do if you want community; you reject it in favor of what you prefer, pointing out that you think it's silly to limit oneself that way. I, in turn, reject your preference in favor of what I prefer, pointing out that I think it's silly to limit oneself that way.

The context seems pretty correct to me.

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theoffspringlp
03.13.2012 , 07:41 PM | #597
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
And I have showed how it will.

I've only been following this thread since about page 11, but I did skim the first 10 pages. It's entirely possible that I missed your reply to this, but most of what I've seen you say can be summed up by "it kills the community". I'm honestly trying to understand your position and that response isn't helpful to conversation. If you want to point me in the direction of where you explained how an optional system prevents you from playing the game the way you are now, I'll happily go back and read it. Otherwise, I think us pro-cross-server lfg people deserve an answer from the anti-cross-server people about how exactly a completely optional system will destroy the community. I don't think many pro cross-server people would object to being able to choose cross-server or single-server, as high pop servers would likely queue among themselves and low pop servers would likely queue cross-server. Seems kinda win-win to me.

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oakamp
03.13.2012 , 07:44 PM | #598
why is this thread still exit?
but low population or server is dying thread doesnt??

provide x-server lfg ASAP, BW.
English is not my first language, still working on it.

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Nitewolfe
03.13.2012 , 07:48 PM | #599
Quote: Originally Posted by Smudgersmith View Post
The moment BW brings in a LFG system i quit anything pve or i just quit like i did with wow when bliz brought in LFR system.
The moment BW adds a lfg system i will resub and finally enjoy being level 50!

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DarthKhaos
03.13.2012 , 07:49 PM | #600
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
So, by "right context" you mean not in a way that makes you look like a hypocrite... eh?

he told you what to do if you want community; you reject it in favor of what you prefer, pointing out that you think it's silly to limit oneself that way. I, in turn, reject your preference in favor of what I prefer, pointing out that I think it's silly to limit oneself that way.

The context seems pretty correct to me.
This is the last post I'll respond to you ever. You are attempting poorly to twist my words.

The community is more than just a guild. If the only people a person interact with or talk to are your guild mates then they are either lying or limiting themselves. To find a guild that fits you you need to meet and interact with players initially. As I've stated before a lot of people make these initial bonds through parting with the person. I don't know Bob here is a good tank just by looking at him regardless of his gear.

Players want things like server forums to strengthen the server community and a statement like "If you want community join a guild." is very short sighted and does not reflect what players want or look for in a community.
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