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maninuniform
03.11.2012 , 07:39 PM | #1
Was Yoda the most powerful Jedi ever? If not then who?
Now I'm actually asking this in hopes that fanboys attack because this game has made me wanna learn more about SW Lore. My friend and I always debate about Dark Side vs Light being stronger. My reason for saying Dark (no im not a dark side bandwaggoner, my favorite character is Yoda) is stronger is because they are willing to go farther to get what they want. Kinda like in "Wanted" where the bad guys got together and got organized and beat the heroes. The reason I say they lose is not because they are weaker but because they are greedy and self destructive. Also I fouond out later on that Lucas was quoted in the commentary of "A new hope" saying the dark side is stronger.

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Wolfninjajedi
03.11.2012 , 07:40 PM | #2
Various information points to before Luke, Yoda being the most powerful jedi ever.
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!"
―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader

Maucs the Tauntaun King, former SWG player.

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JGames
03.11.2012 , 07:43 PM | #3
But Darth Vader had more of the things in his body that tell about the Force then Yoda.

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Wolfninjajedi
03.11.2012 , 07:49 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by JGames View Post
But Darth Vader had more of the things in his body that tell about the Force then Yoda.
That doesn't mean he was the most powerful, he had the potential to be but he never reached it. If he had then yes, he would have been the most powerful but he didn't so it goes to Yoda and then Luke.
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!"
―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader

Maucs the Tauntaun King, former SWG player.

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maninuniform
03.11.2012 , 07:54 PM | #5
what ever happened to the sith emporer? wasnt he supposed to be immortal from absorbing an nentire planet? where the hell was he during episodes 1-6?

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Wolfninjajedi
03.11.2012 , 08:06 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by maninuniform View Post
what ever happened to the sith emporer? wasnt he supposed to be immortal from absorbing an nentire planet? where the hell was he during episodes 1-6?
Well for one, the movies were made before this game....and two ya hes immortal, but that doesn't mean he can't die.
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!"
―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader

Maucs the Tauntaun King, former SWG player.

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ErikModi
03.11.2012 , 10:55 PM | #7
"Most powerful" is all a matter of perspective, and in many respects does not exist.

Mace Windu is widely regarded as the most lethal lightsaber duelist the Order ever produced. Is he the "most powerful?"

Yoda is widely regarded as the wisest and most educated of the Order. Does that make him the "most powerful?"

Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen One, destined to bring balance to the Force. Does that make him the "most powerful?"

Obi-Wan Kenobi was one of the Council's leading Masters and the only one deemed able to defeat General Grievous. Does that make him the "most powerful?"

Qui-Gon Jinn transcended upon death and became one with the Force, yet still retained identity and consciousness, and passed this technique on to Yoda and Obi-Wan. Does that make him the "most powerful?"

The Sith fail because they buy into the concept of "most powerful," always seeking more and more power for themselves and the cost of pretty much everything else. But ultimately, that power is false, empty useless, and will probably only get them killed.

Power is not the end goal of the Force. Knowledge is.
Jedi vs. Sith, Page 97, column 2, paragraph 4, line 1:

Prior to the Battle of Ruusan, the Jedi used crystals from many different sources, and ignited lightsabers in every known hue, including purple, orange, and gold.

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Wolfninjajedi
03.11.2012 , 11:04 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by ErikModi View Post
"Most powerful" is all a matter of perspective, and in many respects does not exist.

Mace Windu is widely regarded as the most lethal lightsaber duelist the Order ever produced. Is he the "most powerful?"

Yoda is widely regarded as the wisest and most educated of the Order. Does that make him the "most powerful?"

Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen One, destined to bring balance to the Force. Does that make him the "most powerful?"

Obi-Wan Kenobi was one of the Council's leading Masters and the only one deemed able to defeat General Grievous. Does that make him the "most powerful?"

Qui-Gon Jinn transcended upon death and became one with the Force, yet still retained identity and consciousness, and passed this technique on to Yoda and Obi-Wan. Does that make him the "most powerful?"

The Sith fail because they buy into the concept of "most powerful," always seeking more and more power for themselves and the cost of pretty much everything else. But ultimately, that power is false, empty useless, and will probably only get them killed.

Power is not the end goal of the Force. Knowledge is.
Which Yoda had, he had 900 years worth of knowledge and was a swordmaster. Its been stated in the ROTS novelization(think that it was that book), that Yoda was the most powerful jedi during that time but not even he could beat Sidious.
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!"
―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader

Maucs the Tauntaun King, former SWG player.

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sphericalcrusher
03.11.2012 , 11:40 PM | #9
Overall, yes. Yoda is regarded as the most powerful Jedi. He has an extremely high midi-chlorian count, excellent in lightsaber combat, and is able to use the force in ways that no one else has ever been able to. He's just well balanced honestly. Now, Mace Windu is the most powerful Jedi in terms of saber combat. He is the only Jedi to master the 7th form of saber combat (Vaapad) where most people use the 3rd. As far as the highest midi-chlorian count, that belonged to Anakin/Darth Vader.
"Always two there are; no more, no less: a master and an apprentice." -Yoda

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Spartanik
03.11.2012 , 11:47 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by ErikModi View Post
"Most powerful" is all a matter of perspective, and in many respects does not exist.

Mace Windu is widely regarded as the most lethal lightsaber duelist the Order ever produced. Is he the "most powerful?"

Yoda is widely regarded as the wisest and most educated of the Order. Does that make him the "most powerful?"

Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen One, destined to bring balance to the Force. Does that make him the "most powerful?"

Obi-Wan Kenobi was one of the Council's leading Masters and the only one deemed able to defeat General Grievous. Does that make him the "most powerful?"

Qui-Gon Jinn transcended upon death and became one with the Force, yet still retained identity and consciousness, and passed this technique on to Yoda and Obi-Wan. Does that make him the "most powerful?"

The Sith fail because they buy into the concept of "most powerful," always seeking more and more power for themselves and the cost of pretty much everything else. But ultimately, that power is false, empty useless, and will probably only get them killed.

Power is not the end goal of the Force. Knowledge is.
Thank you for your post. finaly some sense.
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