Marauders need to be balanced to Juggernauts.

Currently there is no reason at all to go DPS Juggernaut in pvp, I say the taunts simply does not make up for the insane survivabilty and dmg the Marauders have.

In short, How can Marauders have both better survivability and dmg than dps talented Juggernauts? It's beyond lame.

because they have only dps and medium armor? and they cannot specc tank...like a juggernaught can and own that way.

well, my opinion might be a little skewed since I have a DPS guardian and not a Jugg, but...he usually does near the top of the damage chart at the end of a warzone...so, yeah Marauders do more damage, but the difference isn't as bad as you make it sound.

They even have more survivability than a Jugg tank..... Talking lame and stupid... Only thing that makes them bareable is that they pretty much only have a single gap closer (I am not counting force camoflauge) But by any extent of the word they are OP if played well...

What do I mean OP?? a Good Player Pyretech Specced vs a Good Mara player mara will win -30% of the time. A Good Player with a dps Jugg vs a Good Mara, will probably never win. Sure this game isnt balanced in the 1v1. But when a mara is able to 1) shut down a healer, 2) put enough presure into the healer as to murder the tank (the tank is using taunts), it gets stupid...

PS: that last is what I just did, 2 BMs vs 1 Mara (me) I killed tank! and Ill admit I am not by far a "Good" player...

Arguments are invalid, A dps jugg should have more defensive cds than a Marauder while Marauders should have more offensive cds than a jugg it's common sense.

Juggs have like 1 (not counting Endure pain which is horrible) while Marauders have 5 or more defensive cds.
Oh btw heavy armor means hardly nothing if you are not playing as immortal spec.

Dont make use the wz dmg chart as a measure of op dmg or not. I scored high while playing healing spec on my Operative, I simply focused on being in combat all the time and constantly hitting stuff "poof" top dmg on the chart.

AND juggs have 0!! dps cds! ***!?

Indeed.... maybe we sould have 5 offensive cds the way Marauders have 5 defensive cds to make things fair.

Bad night for the marauders. Forum hate coming on fast. Funny how they haven't been a problem for 3 months & all of a sudden, it's time for a nerf

It's like you guys come to the forum & rage (probably about whoever just killed you), about a new class every so often.

Give it a rest already. Look in the mirror & figure out how to counter stuff; try to get better. If you don't, there will always be someone who used an ability to kill you & you will always shout "to the forums" for nerfs.

I do fine as a focus guardian in pvp, but yea mara/sents need a nerfbat to their survivability.

Guardians/juggernauts do no damage. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6653816/highdamage.jpg

The #2 damage person(Thiagoth) is a sentinel/marauder.