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SWTOR pvp has finally turned into Tank with guard and healers

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SWTOR pvp has finally turned into Tank with guard and healers

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Aethyrprime
03.11.2012 , 12:21 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Adzzy View Post
shock wither shock force lightning, wither shock wither force lightning, shock wither shock force lightning.

Theyg enerally won't use any melee attacks at all unless they;re going for that energize burst, simply because of force constraints.

What about this is 45s-1min cds to you?
Any tank with that rotation fails. Just sayin. He'd be standing there waiting for each ability to come back up. No melee hits for energize? What are you people smoking. The ideal combo is 1 tank 1 healer 2 dps. Why? Because no 2 tank 2 healer combo is going to kill anything (unless that happens to be 2 mercs & 2 pt's (or repub equivs).

Don't blame tanks for bad warzone designs. Tanks generally are shafted when it comes to pvp.. Damage from wither is abysmal. 500 dmg per hit up to 5 targets who are all huddled together.. The debuffs of a snare and -5% dmg -5% accuracy (because you know we tanks also use that little thing called "Discharge" which also hits for ***** but at least has a nice debuff and a 500hp heal attached.. OP I say!

In other news group of baddies failed to use their toolsets, news at 11.


Quote: Originally Posted by Sugarray View Post
I would suggest CC, but I guess that is not a part of your damage ''rotation''
QFT

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Xinika
03.11.2012 , 12:22 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Sugarray View Post
I would suggest CC, but I guess that is not a part of your damage ''rotation''
Winning post right here.
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fungihoujo
03.11.2012 , 12:28 PM | #53
And then, dps classes learned that they could focus a target and use CC, and they were amazed when enemies once thought indestructible died in seconds...


Oh, no, wait, we're talking about players like the OP.

And then, dps all chased after a different target from each other and whined when they couldn't win. The end.

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Noctournys
03.11.2012 , 12:39 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by fungihoujo View Post
And then, dps classes learned that they could focus a target and use CC, and they were amazed when enemies once thought indestructible died in seconds...


Oh, no, wait, we're talking about players like the OP.

And then, dps all chased after a different target from each other and whined when they couldn't win. The end.
what exacerbates the problem, honestly, is hybrid classes still having viable heals when DPS speced. I dont mean - they are great healers, but they are viable in a pinch, and it contributes wildly to this problem.

Just fought a voidstar team that "only" had two dedicated healers - and two more dps sages and two dps troopers. On the shockingly rare times when both of their heals were CCed or pulled out of range, the "dps" classes would switch to healing, and while not SUPERZOMGHEALS, they are enough to weather the storm - or keep the healer that you FINALLY manged to shut down alive long enough to get back on top of things.

Base healing amounts on those healing abilities possessed by DPS specs need to be neutered and the healing re-added to the healing specs through deep tree talents.

The problem would clear up almost overnight.
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Also, 'cause im tired of talking about it:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...222960&page=11

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EternalFinality
03.11.2012 , 02:27 PM | #55
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If you have a good tank healer combo, even the 4 man option you stated above, the easy option is to rush another turret (Alderaan), switch doors (Voidstar) those four people can't cover everything regardless how 'good' they are. If you don't attack them they are no use whatsoever.
So what you're saying is they can't be beat, so go somewhere else. Yeah. I know. At least someone is finally admitting it.

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Seriously, listen to yourself. QQ.
So, out of arguments. Got it.

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The solution to any problem relating to healers is to put a sent/mara on them
Works with one healer. Doesn't work as well when said healer is guarded and protected by the tank. Doesn't do anything when there's two.

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Have a player charge/Force leap on tank,at same time pull healer away and into group of dps. Stun/cc healer and smack his/her face off while the tank is stunned by the leap......
Wow, it's like they think they have some kind of amazing original idea. Stun the tank, stun the healer, pull the healer away into a "group of dps"!

It's not like I've already addressed this multiple times, so let's keep suggesting this fantasy solution! Let's just keep snarking about how dps classes are too stupid to use CC.

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mrmortuss
03.12.2012 , 12:14 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Adzzy View Post
shock wither shock force lightning, wither shock wither force lightning, shock wither shock force lightning.

Theyg enerally won't use any melee attacks at all unless they;re going for that energize burst, simply because of force constraints.

What about this is 45s-1min cds to you?
Wither has a 7.5 secondcd, and shock has 6 second, plus we will melee as this is where we get our self heals from.

I dont know where i got 45s-1min, that was meant to be 90 second, and im on about recklessness. these is where we get the big crit ticking Force lightning with harness darkness.

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darkthsith
03.12.2012 , 12:19 PM | #57
2 vanguards 2 commando equals unstoppable force that can take on the whole other team

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Kungpaoshizi
03.12.2012 , 12:21 PM | #58
I dont understand a word you're saying!!

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GRINnBARRETT
03.12.2012 , 12:22 PM | #59
Normals are learning how to play. Give them a break, it took them 3 months.

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VoidJustice
03.12.2012 , 12:23 PM | #60
What happens if 2 teams made up entirely of stealthers meet? Does anyone ever come out of cloak...

/ponder