It's time to nerf Smash.

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It's time to nerf Smash.

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xJACKTHERIPPERx

03.10.2012 , 04:29 PM \| #161	Quote
the thing about smash is, its a single 5k crit after a long, low damage setup. so its really not that bad. i know its a cliche, but compare that to a BH's setup for their main damage... by the time theyre done stacking on tracer missile, you're almost dead anyway. their buildup has pretty big damage, then they're able to do an even larget hit. force choke + leap does very little damage, then a 5k crit, great, you still have like at least 10k Hp left, so what? I've played rage spec for a while, and its really not that great. its got its moments, but in the end, its a lot of build up for one hit, and if it misses youre kinda screwed
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Comfterbilly

03.10.2012 , 05:14 PM \| #162	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by xJACKTHERIPPERx the thing about smash is, its a single 5k crit after a long, low damage setup. so its really not that bad. i know its a cliche, but compare that to a BH's setup for their main damage... by the time theyre done stacking on tracer missile, you're almost dead anyway. their buildup has pretty big damage, then they're able to do an even larget hit. force choke + leap does very little damage, then a 5k crit, great, you still have like at least 10k Hp left, so what? I've played rage spec for a while, and its really not that great. its got its moments, but in the end, its a lot of build up for one hit, and if it misses youre kinda screwed And how about running slower than every other class? I get a short little sprint out of Obliterate but try even catching somebody to land it once they're running away; without force charge there is no catch, without catch there is no melee, without melee there is no juggernaut. Juggernaut has ONE good attack; take that away and what's the point of catching anybody?
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JediDuckling

03.10.2012 , 05:18 PM \| #163	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Theology So, every game I play against the republic now consists of 5 sages and 3 smash spec'd jedi knights. There's a reason everyone is rolling these 2 classes. Inb4l2play, stop qq, you're bad, can i have your stuff?, WTFZOMGBBQ i totaly agree on smash getting nerfed 3k to 8k AOE damage is patheticly OP i can understand 2k for an AOE based attack but smahs AOE is doing more than most single target dps abilitys. /signed on nerfing smash <3

Teabaker

03.10.2012 , 05:27 PM \| #164	Quote
Uhm.. Smash skilled Juggernauts should actually get buffed. They are extremely squishy.

xJACKTHERIPPERx

03.10.2012 , 05:32 PM \| #165	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Comfterbilly And how about running slower than every other class? I get a short little sprint out of Obliterate but try even catching somebody to land it once they're running away; without force charge there is no catch, without catch there is no melee, without melee there is no juggernaut. Juggernaut has ONE good attack; take that away and what's the point of catching anybody? ya, exactly, that too. a lot of things have to go right in order to get off a successful smash on someone let alone a group of players. and in the end, its 1 5k hit. what about assassins or operatives who can get off multilpe 2.5+ crits in a few seconds
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Theology

03.10.2012 , 05:46 PM \| #166	Quote
Make Smash single target and all is right in the world. It is stupid that it is AoE.

xJACKTHERIPPERx

03.10.2012 , 05:51 PM \| #167	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Theology Make Smash single target and all is right in the world. It is stupid that it is AoE. ya, a melee range AoE. basically, to put it into perspective, if im chasing you with my big smash ready to go, and im like 2m behind you, because of the little hop that i do, ill miss you with it, cause by the time i land, you're already out of range. so not only is there a very obvious like 5 second setup for it, but the target has to be pretty much standing still.
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Vid-szhite

03.10.2012 , 05:56 PM \| #168	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Theology It's not practical to dodge each smash when you have 3-4 Smash knights a game whilst being cc'd. Let's get real. That strat is fine and dandy 1v1, but to execute that in WZs while capping nodes isn't going to happen. If you take away smash crit, then let's also take away Grav Round Commandos. These are MUCH more common than any kind of Knights on my server, and they're even more annoying. At least the Knights can't really do anything once their Smash is blown, the grav round mandos just get even more annoying once they pop their cooldown that makes them immune to interrupts.

Badlander

03.10.2012 , 05:58 PM \| #169	Quote
Is there anything the bads will not ask to get nerfed? Wonder what is next on the list.
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CaptainInsano

03.10.2012 , 06:02 PM \| #170	Quote
Yeah I've changed my mind about Smash. Although it can be overwhelming when multiple Juggs chain smash a group, that's a pretty rare scenario. The rest of that spec has pretty pitiful damage outside of the buffed up Smash, which requires a build up period and can only be done when Force Choke or the 31 point slow ( I forget the name) are off CD. And they have pretty significant cooldowns. I think it's actually good design and how burst of that nature should be treated. Pyroctechs, on the other hand....

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