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Galbatorrix
03.09.2012 , 02:08 PM | #371
Quote: Originally Posted by Hebrewz View Post
why do so many people in this thread assume that being a "non-clicker" means that you ONLY MOVE WITH YOUR MOUSE AND NOTHING ELSE??
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It's the same thing from the other side. People assuming clickers never use their mouse to strafe/move. I'm a clicker and I use a combo of both. I'll admit that I can't strafe and click at the same time, but come on... it's not like games with a GCD need lightning fast reflexes or anything. This isn't a twitch game.

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XOrionX
03.09.2012 , 02:10 PM | #372
Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
And if you're a melee? Or if you want to Los? Or if you are travelling with or with someone to an objective in pvp? Or if you want to move out of an aoe?

Ok, that is enough examples to completely debunk your theory.
I wasn't talking about LOS or any of that.

I was talking about people who are out in the open and try to strafe around ranged dps, it's silly, the ranged dps just stands in place and turns to follow the strafer. It's not hard to see the point I was trying to make. Debunk failed.

Also, it's not theory when ranged dps players constantly use and practice it successfully.
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Dayln
03.09.2012 , 02:11 PM | #373
Quote: Originally Posted by OldBenSmokin View Post
Oh whatever, quit assuming things about people in this thread. Says alot more about you than it does the people you're trying to dismiss. Has nothing to do with ego and everything to do with experience, staying open to new playstyles, and figuring out what works best.

Thank god your attitude is the minority, otherwise we'd still be in the dark ages.
You have me all wrong, I am open to suggestions, but not to the domineering attitude of several people here

My attitude is not in the minority, it is in the large majority

Come into one of my groups and start trying to dictate how other play and you wont last 30 seconds.

There are excellent players that are clickers and keyboarders for skills, I don’t look down my nose at any of them.
I have a bad feeling about this

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Astharothtx
03.09.2012 , 02:11 PM | #374
Hi

Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
So when you move your mouse to click on spells, you don't look at the spell bar? lol
Try closing your eyes and clicking the right spells and you'll see you have to look thus dragging your eyes away.
Even if it is only for a second, it's a second you would have saved keybinding.
Mmm.. yes. i do not look my spell bar.. and was always the same. Even in a easy encounters (old good days on gruul for example) i was using only one hand (on the mouse) to move / click / and so on.

I look at the spell bar the same as a keybinder does... just to see when needed the state of my cd's (obvious, i can keep on my mind two / three countdowns, but not five)

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OldBenSmokin
03.09.2012 , 02:16 PM | #375
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
You have me all wrong, I am open to suggestions, but not to the domineering attitude of several people here.
Evan is being a dick about it. Everyone else has been respectful. You have been trying to say the other side has no validity and it's an ego thing. Both are wrong.

Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
My attitude is not in the minority, it is in the large majority.
Really? I don't see anyone else equating people's postion to an ego trip.
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
Come into one of my groups and start trying to dictate how other play and you wont last 30 seconds..
You mean the group that wholly against meters, keybinding, and other things that make good players better? Well shucks. (not that I would tell others how to play... unless they started a thread... about said topic... asking for an explaination.....)
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
There are excellent players that are clickers and keyboarders for skills, I don’t look down my nose at any of them.
Of course not. You've not said anything negative about the motives of those who confess keybinding is ultimatly a better means of control.

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 02:21 PM | #376
Quote: Originally Posted by XOrionX View Post
I wasn't talking about LOS or any of that.
Well "LOS or any of that" are all essential strategies and tactics to play at high skill level.

Ignoring that disregards your whole argument.

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 02:23 PM | #377
Quote: Originally Posted by XOrionX View Post
Also, it's not theory when ranged dps players constantly use and practice it successfully.
Oh your statement that "strafing is useless" isn't theory?

I'm assuming that you have it backed up by facts and examples that prove that you never ever have to strafe and it's "useless"...

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Galbatorrix
03.09.2012 , 02:29 PM | #378
Look, I agree that keybinding is more effective. But that doesn't some how make clicking ineffective as a result. Plenty of people do it and plenty of people have a lot of success regardless. Next time you run a pug and have a good tank or healer, ask them if they click. You might be surprised. Heck, that awesome tank or healer might just be me.

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 02:32 PM | #379
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Look, I agree that keybinding is more effective. But that doesn't some how make clicking ineffective as a result. Plenty of people do it and plenty of people have a lot of success regardless. Next time you run a pug and have a good tank or healer, ask them if they click. You might be surprised. Heck, that awesome tank or healer might just be me.
You're the only clicker on this thread with reasoning and understanding.

I bet you are a pretty decent player despite the fact you click, but have you ever thought of the grand world of potential growth you could make if you switched to keybinds?

Who knows, you may go from good as a clicker, to ****** pro as a keybinder.

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Balmuck
03.09.2012 , 02:36 PM | #380
Here is what I can't fathom as a pearson who ABSOLUTELY hates keyboards and PC gaming... yes, I grew up with a console so I don't really care for the over priced piece of hardware that never seems to work when you you need it... look at this game and Ilum for example.

Majority of these "key binders" say that it's impossible to move and strafe while clicking, seem to be the clickers themselves.


How does one strafe with the mouse? It's not possible. My strafe keys, are bound to the keyboard and then the most neccesarry abilities, especially my instant heal and shield on the sage, are bound to the closest buttons next to the strafe keys... rest of my keybinds are on my mouse, 1-9, which are modified by alt and shift, which are bound to buttons right underneath my space bar and make my life a whole lot better.


I do wanna say one thing.


You can strafe and click at the same time. You can move and kite and click at the same time. Nothing changes between kiting and strafing while clicking and while using the mouse. It's not like you have to hold your mouse to strafe, it's done vie key input.
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