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OldBenSmokin
03.09.2012 , 01:43 PM | #341
Quote: Originally Posted by Astharothtx View Post
Hi



So... if someone in other game genre CAN click 6/7 times every two seconds ... there is nothing who stop those kind of ppl on games like swtor to play by clicking with good results.

Ill show u an example.

Around the 3% of owners of Left 4 Dead 2 have the "Real Deal" Achievement. It consist on play with success an entire campaing in expert plus real .. so, to kill a zombie u need to hit it a lot of times or headshot.

Well, in a campaing u often confront at least 10 hordes of zombies, each horde takes 20/40 zombies... so if u dont want to die u must take down before they reach u. So, u and ur team mates (4 to be exact) need to take down at least an amount of 5 zombies each in seconds..

Think.. 4/5 seconds... to kill 5 zombies... 5 headshots... moving targets...

Now, think on that skill on Swtor.. u need to think and push the requiered spell every 1.5secs (on the worst case)

Continue in the worst case, ill suposse u need to target too (even if u can do it quick with tab).. is around two clicks every 1.5 seconds.. more than possible

And yes, i have the "Real Deal" i use keyboard+mouse for moving (wasd+looking around camera, turn with mouse,etc) and mouse to click spells.. and i never "feel" stressed cause i do not reach the spell at a time... so.. .

My advice? Get ur own playstyle and dont bother about others / what is possible / what is best / what is not.
I'm not going to be mean but, again, using an FPS as an comparison is just silly.

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 01:44 PM | #342
Quote: Originally Posted by Astharothtx View Post
Hi



So... if someone in other game genre CAN click 6/7 times every two seconds ... there is nothing who stop those kind of ppl on games like swtor to play by clicking with good results.

Ill show u an example.

Around the 3% of owners of Left 4 Dead 2 have the "Real Deal" Achievement. It consist on play with success an entire campaing in expert plus real .. so, to kill a zombie u need to hit it a lot of times or headshot.

Well, in a campaing u often confront at least 10 hordes of zombies, each horde takes 20/40 zombies... so if u dont want to die u must take down before they reach u. So, u and ur team mates (4 to be exact) need to take down at least an amount of 5 zombies each in seconds..

Think.. 4/5 seconds... to kill 5 zombies... 5 headshots... moving targets...

Now, think on that skill on Swtor.. u need to think and push the requiered spell every 1.5secs (on the worst case)

Continue in the worst case, ill suposse u need to target too (even if u can do it quick with tab).. is around two clicks every 1.5 seconds.. more than possible

And yes, i have the "Real Deal" i use keyboard+mouse for moving (wasd+looking around camera, turn with mouse,etc) and mouse to click spells.. and i never "feel" stressed cause i do not reach the spell at a time... so.. .

My advice? Get ur own playstyle and dont bother about others / what is possible / what is best / what is not.
Again, missing the point. Aiming and moving a mouse in an fps is entriely different than an mmo. In an fps your mouse is being dragged into the exact environmental sight you need, while on an mmo, by clicking, your eyes drift away from the area and could lead to failures more often than a binder.

Also, you wasted energy typing that entire post... You proposed an argument that was solely based on click speeds... lol.

You know this game has global cooldowns right?

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grandmthethird
03.09.2012 , 01:45 PM | #343
i use keybinds. i just find it easier to get all my moves off and know where they are.

my bro is a clicker. and after almost 10 years of clicking he got pretty good at it. and i'm willing to bet he is just as efficient as any1 else. i believe he has full battlemaster gear so he must have beat one or two keybinders in PvP
"Hope has a vicious enemy called fate"

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JediElf
03.09.2012 , 01:45 PM | #344
If a boss falls over dead, and no one stood in the fire, then who cares if you click or keyboard?

Does it really matter that much?

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WickedDjinn
03.09.2012 , 01:46 PM | #345
Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
Everyone is more comfortable clicking a mouse when they have never keybound before.

Adapt, practice it for a day or two, and that will change.
Assuming you have the power to tell everyone else what they are, aren't and will be most comfortable with.

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 01:47 PM | #346
Quote: Originally Posted by grandmthethird View Post
and after almost 10 years of clicking he got pretty good at it.

Enough said.

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Shakari
03.09.2012 , 01:47 PM | #347
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparklehorse View Post
No matter how anybody tries to shape and spin the arguments in favor of clicking a player will never be as efficient using this method as they will be with keybinding.

The mouse is for moving.

The keyboard is for your abilities.

If you aren't playing this way you are punishing your own efficiency.

It's a personal choice but make no mistake about it, if you choose to use the keyboard to move/turn and the mouse to click your abilities on the action bar you will be at a distinct disadvantage when playing against a person who uses the mouse to move and binds their abilities to their keyboard.

If that was true then no abilty would be clickable and all would be bind only
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life."

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Tekkoclarky
03.09.2012 , 01:47 PM | #348
Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
Wrong, so moving to a person, clicking them, and then moving back to heal and cicking the spell is as efficient as binding?

Intelligence fail.
according to clickers it is!

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 01:48 PM | #349
Quote: Originally Posted by JediElf View Post
If a boss falls over dead, and no one stood in the fire, then who cares if you click or keyboard?

Does it really matter that much?
Not at all, but often times when people do burn in the fire, it's due to a spellcasting change that can be made so easily, which is frustrating.

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 01:49 PM | #350
Quote: Originally Posted by WickedDjinn View Post
Assuming you have the power to tell everyone else what they are, aren't and will be most comfortable with.
Keybinding is using a keyboard in most cases. If that is uncomfortable for someone, why are they playing a pc game with a keyboard?