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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 01:37 PM | #331
Quote: Originally Posted by WickedDjinn View Post
Your missing the point entirely.

If someone used key bindings over a setup they are more comfortable with will they become better players? Yes or No.

Rather simple, really. Otherwise the answer to the charge of being more efficient amounts to the following.

"Yeah, so what?"
Everyone is more comfortable clicking a mouse when they have never keybound before.

Adapt, practice it for a day or two, and that will change.

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WickedDjinn
03.09.2012 , 01:39 PM | #332
Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
So a verified 1 out of Millions is successful at it?
It only takes one example to kill an argument that deals in absolutes.

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 01:39 PM | #333
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
No just verified that people should not bother listening to you.

Play how you want to play, and what works well for you, and don’t tell others how they should play.

You would not last 5 min in one of our groups
I am not telling them how to play, I am arguing the original point that keybinding is much better than clicking.

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Dayln
03.09.2012 , 01:40 PM | #334
Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
Everyone is more comfortable clicking a mouse when they have never keybound before.

Adapt, practice it for a day or two, and that will change.
Or jsut do what they enjoy doing and not worry about what you think if what they are doing works for them.
I have a bad feeling about this

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 01:40 PM | #335
Quote: Originally Posted by WickedDjinn View Post
It only takes one example to kill an argument that deals in absolutes.
That's why "verified" was included. As far as I'm concerned, only one example of a true high ranked pvp clicker was given, did you see others?

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Astharothtx
03.09.2012 , 01:41 PM | #336
Hi

Quote: Originally Posted by OldBenSmokin View Post
Obviously... I wasn't talking about other game genres....
I play Starcraft, so I know it exists.
So... if someone in other game genre CAN click 6/7 times every two seconds ... there is nothing who stop those kind of ppl on games like swtor to play by clicking with good results.

Ill show u an example.

Around the 3% of owners of Left 4 Dead 2 have the "Real Deal" Achievement. It consist on play with success an entire campaing in expert plus real .. so, to kill a zombie u need to hit it a lot of times or headshot.

Well, in a campaing u often confront at least 10 hordes of zombies, each horde takes 20/40 zombies... so if u dont want to die u must take down before they reach u. So, u and ur team mates (4 to be exact) need to take down at least an amount of 5 zombies each in seconds..

Think.. 4/5 seconds... to kill 5 zombies... 5 headshots... moving targets...

Now, think on that skill on Swtor.. u need to think and push the requiered spell every 1.5secs (on the worst case)

Continue in the worst case, ill suposse u need to target too (even if u can do it quick with tab).. is around two clicks every 1.5 seconds.. more than possible

And yes, i have the "Real Deal" i use keyboard+mouse for moving (wasd+looking around camera, turn with mouse,etc) and mouse to click spells.. and i never "feel" stressed cause i do not reach the spell at a time... so.. .

My advice? Get ur own playstyle and dont bother about others / what is possible / what is best / what is not.

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Galbatorrix
03.09.2012 , 01:41 PM | #337
Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
Whether it's manageable or not, most people that click and heal are very ineffective. Also, even though your raid frames and spell are close, they still cannot be cast as quickly as a bind.

Also, come on, healing pally was flash spam 90% of the time lol.

Regardless, it's effective enough to work. Heck, I rarely even lose anyone while healing. And you obviously didn't play WOW after TBC. Healing is way different now for all classes.

In WOW, I use Bartender to put bars next to the frames and again, I click the frame, then click the spell. I'm very good at healing with this method.

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Evan_Gregory
03.09.2012 , 01:42 PM | #338
Quote: Originally Posted by Dayln View Post
Or jsut do what they enjoy doing and not worry about what you think if what they are doing works for them.
Hey, if they want to wipe raids and lose warzones for people, go right ahead.

I can't change the world, only inform it.

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Galbatorrix
03.09.2012 , 01:43 PM | #339
Quote: Originally Posted by Evan_Gregory View Post
Hey, if they want to wipe raids and lose warzones for people, go right ahead.

I can't change the world, only inform it.

Over generalize much?

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superpeanuts
03.09.2012 , 01:43 PM | #340
Im will ing to admit that if you are a clicker in pvp you can probablly get away with healing and or rdps. Seems like you lose a lot of ability to kite when you arent taking advantage of the "a" "d" "s" "w" keys but maybe the benefit is so marginal that you as a clicker can get away with it.

however that doesnt answer my question




question for clickers who play mdps characters

How do you stay on top of your target in PVP? the target (other players) dont sit patiently in one place while you click your abilities and you obviously arent going to be able to move with them and click abilities at the same time. Clearly in PVE this is a non issue because npc enemies either stand in one spot in meele range or shoot from one spot at range and shoot at you. However in PVP clicking seems to make playing a mdps class against moving human targets impossible.

Also another question

When as a clicker you are playing a mdps class how do you stay behind your target? With a combination of the mouse and keyboard you can perpetually remain facing a player target's back. (right mouse button held down and "a" or "d" key). A mouse and keyboard mover useing 1-6 and alt+ 1-6 can and do litterally run circles around clickers. what is a clickers answer to this obvious disadvantage?

I think that the apperant lack of acknowledgement of this honest question means either

1) clickers know they cant and so dont play mdps in pvp or
2) clickers know they are at a severe disavantage playing mdps in pvp so dont answer because they have no defensable argument

sincerely curious how a successful mdps clicker does it in pvp???