It's time to nerf Smash.

You lost me because it sounds like you've never played a DPS jug/guardian. Much less fought one that does 8k crits on smash consistantly on a relatively short CD.

aw yeah but 2k uninterruptable lightning hits that heal you are A-OK.

Or those shocks that have a 100% crit chance do to energize that you can spec to shock while you shock... Oh and with recklessness popped it does 50% more damage... yeah.

you'll be fine.

At the risk of being jumped on, I would like to ask the knowledgeable people out there about Smash.

I'm a Carnage Marauder myself, and I like to PvP mostly. I took Smash off my rotation very early on and never put it back, but recently I've seen videos on youtube showing Warriors, both Juggernauts and Marauders, utterly decimating enemy health bars by using Smash once. The well-geared Lvl 50 players seem to get their Smash to crit for upwards of 7500.

I assume there's some kind of "best" spec that achieves that kind of damage, but is Smash not overpowered in that regard, bearing in mind that I'm asking from the perspective of an ill-informed observer, not from the perspective of someone who has been on the receiving end of Smash crits?

Operatives can't AOE 9k crits... Guardians and Jugs can.

But operatives get nerf'd 4 times... While the glowstick users get unnoticed for their 8k crit AOE and their 2000 damage per tick dots.

There's this great website it's called google.

There you can do a search for "Jedi Guardian on crack"

Then you'll see another great site called Youtube.

There you will see this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfWx_mcAQBY

Drugs are bad... m'kay?

AHHHHHH, i just noticed your on a crusade.. i thought you had legitimate gripes, you obviously have never played jug to say smash build up is on a short CD, you spend 90% of the time setting it up, all in the hopes you dont get KB'd trying to pull it off, than after its done your standing with your hands out because your tricks are gone. So sure they can nerf it after they buff vengeance spec and give rage more dps, with out needing to set up a damn smash.

Should have expected Smash using knights and warriors to flame this thread hard while offering unpractical solutions to make it seem like that spec isn't overly OP.

Dude, stop spreading misinformation. I hate the smash spec myself, but you aren't really helping the cause.

least post something thats up todate

pre surge change pre adrinal change pre 50 only warzone

6K on a smash/sweep is very doable even on geared players but 7-8K would have to be the perfect situation on a new 50 in greens

smash/sweep takes build up and can be contered but It can make bad players/teams look worse when the healers all stand on top of each other a well timed full power smash can devestate them

Helig I respect you... you know that.

But this isn't misinformation.

The facts are there. I assure you that.