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No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

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Touchbass
03.08.2012 , 05:39 PM | #301
Quote: Originally Posted by jakedamus View Post
DOnt care if it is cross server or not
But I do want a LFG tool ASAP
should be number one priority
It won't be here till at least June at the earliest and it won't be a strong functioning tool if we can learn from the progress of the X-LFD from WoW.
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Nitewolfe
03.08.2012 , 05:40 PM | #302
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
Yeah, stupid SWTOR. I'm back for a bit
I think there are a few sites with free beta keys for tera still out but need to hurry if you want to try it this weekend. 12 gig download and it starts tomorrow.

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Touchbass
03.08.2012 , 05:43 PM | #303
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitewolfe View Post
I think there are a few sites with free beta keys for tera still out but need to hurry if you want to try it this weekend. 12 gig download and it starts tomorrow.
Interesting, I have bandwidth issues so I can't take on that much right now. Did you see the numbers that came in? SWTOR is losing subs, they've shrunk from 1.7million to just under 1.7million. I wonder how many more subs they've have in lot pop servers if they would introduce a X-LFD
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Marcus_Cade
03.08.2012 , 05:44 PM | #304
Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgZoeller View Post
The Group Finder feature we've discussed for the near future is definitely single-server only.
- Excellent.
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein

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Touchbass
03.08.2012 , 05:47 PM | #305
Quote: Originally Posted by Marcus_Cade View Post
- Excellent.
I'm not to happy about it as that's going to death of a lot of servers but on the flipside a X-LFD would make life less enjoyable for people on the high population servers so at least someone is winning.
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Liteweightthedog
03.08.2012 , 06:00 PM | #306
I was very opposed to cross realm instance queues when I played WoW and I stand by that on TOR as well.

When I played WoW I noticed a huge decline in the sense of community when that feature was implemented.

You wound up running instances with players who were undergeared and underskilled for the content....which was a pain at times...but not the overall killer of the feature for me.

The main factors that I saw as major flaws in the system are...

1. Players had a much higher tendency to "phone it in" when they ran the instances and couldnt care less how they performed. There was no accountability for how well they played or how much they contributed to the group.

At least if you're a slacker on your own server you gain a reputation as such and noone will want to group with you. You need to maintain an acceptable level of performance to keep getting invites.

Cross-realm queues not only allow for, but encourage poor players by allowing them to go from group to group until they find one that has players willing to carry them.

2. With the vast majority of players using the finder and grouping with players on other realms you are pretty much forced to use it to find groups whether you like it or not.

Players become unwilling to wait for a group to form in the old way and run with players on their own server.

3. You don't have the option to befriend players on other servers that you enjoyed grouping with.

When you run content with another player or players that click and make for an enjoyable time you want to be able to group with them again. When theyre on a different server you don't have that option and that great grouping will never come together again.


So basically you get the convenience of a faster wait time but lose all the other benefits of grouping with other players.

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Nightmarer
03.08.2012 , 06:23 PM | #307
A LFD tool is, in my opinion, much needed in this game. As it stands now, after I'm done with boring daily missions for cash, the perspective is to sit in the fleet spamming to get a group for who knows how long.

If said tool is either single server or cross server, I don't really care, but I think it'd be kinda pointless implementing a cross server LFD tool without allowing server transfers, who knows, you might find ppl with whom you get along with and you might want to change servers to join their guild or start one with them.

Once dreaming, free weekly transfer system like in Rift would be awesome.-

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Touchbass
03.08.2012 , 06:32 PM | #308
Quote: Originally Posted by Nightmarer View Post
A LFD tool is, in my opinion, much needed in this game. As it stands now, after I'm done with boring daily missions for cash, the perspective is to sit in the fleet spamming to get a group for who knows how long.

If said tool is either single server or cross server, I don't really care, but I think it'd be kinda pointless implementing a cross server LFD tool without allowing server transfers, who knows, you might find ppl with whom you get along with and you might want to change servers to join their guild or start one with them.

Once dreaming, free weekly transfer system like in Rift would be awesome.-
WoW tried at least 4-7 different approaches to keep the server search function intra-server but no luck. Rift tried a server only automated feature but someones the queue was over 7 hours cause there wasn't enough people to pull from. Even the new MMORPG Tera is launching with a X-LFD, boggles my mind why we don't have one. Like I understand it can hurt relationship formation so lets find ways of accomodating both crowds.
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Nightmarer
03.08.2012 , 06:59 PM | #309
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
WoW tried at least 4-7 different approaches to keep the server search function intra-server but no luck. Rift tried a server only automated feature but someones the queue was over 7 hours cause there wasn't enough people to pull from. Even the new MMORPG Tera is launching with a X-LFD, boggles my mind why we don't have one. Like I understand it can hurt relationship formation so lets find ways of accomodating both crowds.
Can't comment about WoW but true about Rift, having an intra-server dungeon finder was like having no LFD at all even being able to join covering 3 roles with my rogue. Let's hope it works different here, since it's been confirmed it'll be same server only LFD, I highly doubt it will work, but it's one of those things I'd love being wrong about.

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Touchbass
03.08.2012 , 07:03 PM | #310
Quote: Originally Posted by Nightmarer View Post
Can't comment about WoW but true about Rift, having an intra-server dungeon finder was like having no LFD at all even being able to join covering 3 roles with my rogue. Let's hope it works different here, since it's been confirmed it'll be same server only LFD, I highly doubt it will work, but it's one of those things I'd love being wrong about.
Yeah people are complaining that is nobody to group with that is interested in doing content with them at the same time as them on their server. So adding a intra-server is going to do what exactly? The feature also won't be automatic from what's been gathered.

Blizzard has is to you can group up cross server with the friends you meet. If you really like them you reroll or pay for a transfer. Why can't Bioware evolve instead of devolve.
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!