No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

I have actually changed my stance on this. Last few night's lvling from 45-48 i have not been able to get 1 heroic 4 group. Asked in general for anyone looking to do them not once responce for more then 4 hours.

The community excuse doesn't hold water. maybe on some servers? but i think the cross realm tool is needed if a lot of people want to get there heroics done. Only time i have been in a flash point is when its been with guild.

You can not say it will ruin the community when i haven't gotten the chance to play with anyone in the community. Just MO

and btw... if we gotta spend a couple of hours lfg... i think the community's failing...

I'll say it again. we NEED a cross-server LFG tool for flashpoints at the very least.

I spent over an hour trying to get a group..wasted...time. completely.

And those saying it kills server communities? get a grip...it sure doesn't. you still have a very large need for friends/guild on your own server.

I'll take a cross-server LFG tool with the risk of losing a drop I can USE to some 2yo that just wants to sell/RE/companion it over sitting for hours on end doing NOTHING because no groups are forming.

the failed logic for not wanting one astounds me.

Those who are against cross-server, or a lfg tool in general, clearly have not tried forming groups when there are 7 people TOTAL on the fleet. Aside from a 49 and 50, no one was within 5 levels of another player. I couldn't spam chat even if I wanted to (well I suppose I could but I think you get my point). This whole argument about cross-server lfg killing communities is about as well reasoned as "the sky is falling". The idea that players somehow police themselves and that if a player behaves poorly there are repercussions is more or less a myth.

As someone pointed out, if you're running a FP now and someone is either a jerk or really bad and just wanting to be carried, there's almost nothing you can do during the run. If you kick them out of the group you either have to go back and spam chat looking for someone to run a half-finished run or trying to finish it shorthanded. Sure, when you get back you can complain to everyone in the fleet, and maybe some people will listen to/care about what you have to say, but that person IS going to find more groups.

exactly. Personally I think it's just the WoW-haters being stubborn because WoW was the first to use it (that I know of..and/or at least the most popular one)

the lack of intelligent reasoning for not wanting it..again...is dumbfounding

The problem isn't with people. The problem is the requirement of manually checking and refreshing the LFG tool to see when someone of the right spec and characteristics checks in. With an automated system, you just flag yourself and go about your business. With the manual system you are proposing, you have to sit there with the screen open and refresh it constantly until that healer gets in. Which, to the person trying to find a group, is just as frustrating and time-wasting as spamming general chat.

It then snowballs as more people try the system, get frustrated with it, and then go back to spamming general chat. Until the perception of LFG being useless becomes the reality.

This.....

X server LFG is not needed at all in the game, just merge the server's and add some better social tool's, so people in open world can actually speak to each other without relying on the chat box...

Needless to say they cannot even get the Flashpoints and OPs to work properly on a single server let alone merging them..

There are bigger issue's with the game than the ability to find a group....If you cant then join a guild or make some friends...If your not interested in either of those then what do you need a Tool for in the first place.

Well next time try playing on a server that fit's your game time, we have a guy from the US in our European guild because of his working hours, his playtime coincide's with our Peak time...

There is never an issue with getting a group if you join a guild or make some friends, Jesus you need to find 3 people.....And you need a tool for that LOL...

You have to have a community to destroy first. Low pop is low pop!

Why do so many points get down to: cross server vs spamming general in fleet? It is not as black and white as people try to make it.

And why does every reasonable suggestion like: "single server first, and maybe it will go the Rift way and eventually do require cross server, or maybe they will consolidate servers to ensure quicker queues" - type responses get crowded over with either lovers or haters of cross server tools.

Single (or cross eventually) server, automated LFG queue for Flashpoints is something that would improve the amount of effort spent into forming groups. That is a simple fact.

But when it comes to heroic quests, especially the levelling kind, a cross server tool simply cannot exist. Considering many of them are out in the world and not in their own Instance. The current tool is clearly not good enough. But an improvement can be made with a single server 'quest queue' system where (for example from the quest log) you can put yourself forward as someone looking for a Heroic quest group and the game just matches you with someone who is doing the same. How this functionality works exactly is hard to imagine because there are many limitations to how you can match and group up people out in the world to do a quest out in the world compared to grouping up people looking for a Flashpoint.

Still, the current system is not good enough and something needs to be done. I am still in the camp that says it does not have to be a cross server tool, but a better tool is needed. I would prefer either an automated queue (aka: the WoW/Rift version) or a better 'notice board' functionality than they have now. Where people can just offer themselves for Flashpoints regardless of where they are in the game world. And not this current, crappy system where you can only see people that are LFG in the same planet as you are.