It's time to end the grass/snow days...

And that's the whole point.

You *think* you know what fixed point others use when you call something like "left"

And yet most people in this thread who are advocates of left / right use it as "left from spawn" whereas you just said it's the "left side indicator", which I assume you mean either on the map or on the turret window in the top right. Which means you are assigning it to west.




You've just shown that left is subjective and people using their own interpretations of left always assume that their way is "correct" and the most obvious.

funny how you are so sure that "north is always at the top of the map"

please tell me is north really at the top of this map? (if you are not sure, there is also a compass on that map)

http://flourish.org/upsidedownmap/rotatedmap-large.jpg

or this:

http://www.odt.org/Pictures/mcarthursmap.jpg


here is some more trivia:

"The orientation of a map is the relationship between the directions on the map and the corresponding compass directions in reality. The word "orient" is derived from Latin oriens, meaning East. In the Middle Ages many maps, including the T and O maps, were drawn with East at the top (meaning that the direction "up" on the map corresponds to East on the compass). Today, the most common – but far from universal – cartographic convention is that North is at the top of a map. Several kinds of maps are often traditionally not oriented with North at the top"


somehow "north is always at the top of the map" is not so true :-)

can you share more of your wisdom? perhaps "sky is always blue" ?

I don't know what to tell you. Left and Right are used universally in Civil War on my server and I've never seen anyone get confused. Voidstar is a different story.

It is different depending on what server you use. Thankfully no one on my server is stupid enough to use vague descriptions instead of actual directions.


Plus it's easier for the side (pubs I think) where left from spawn and left on map (i.e. west) are the same thing.

I would have no problem using left/right if people would base that on map and indicator location and not spawn point. Someone calls "Left incoming" and i'm standing there going "no, really, no ones coming" because they use a relational left as opposed to a static left as indicated with the turret indicator and map, it really bugs the crap out of me.

Whereas, it's hard to eff up snow/grass. One side has snow, the other side has grass. If you don't know which side is which, well, learn to pay attention from now on. 2 civil wars and you should be familiar with which turret is snow and which is grass.

East/West is probably the second best option, would be the first best but well, lets face it, the US public school system is sort of fail. It's pretty mind boggling the amount of people that don't know east from west these days

I'll stick with snow/grass when i'm calling an incoming, if you don't like it, feel free to stupidly run to the wrong turret in some sort of defiance, or call me a mean name on the internet, it wont be the first or last time that will ever happen.

Losing faith in humanity, post by post...

What I've seen the most experienced PVP players who group cue and use voice chat will use snow/grass while almost all solo cues I do will use E/W. You can go on raging like Chris Columbus saying people fail 3rd grade for not knowing east from west and I'll quote straight from this thread "When you open your map" is the reason why it is less effective.

In solo cue I somewhat agree its easier to just go with E/W but if I was organizing a group of none fails with voice chat 100% would use grass/snow. Once you learn which speeder goes where you will never open the map again because it kills your entire view. I would also bet that a good amount of ninja caps happen while people are checking the map 10sec is a ton of time when you are LOS behind a turret capping from stealth.






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I had played on both sides. And to be honest, as republican, it's fairly easy for anyone to understand, left and right. It's when you playing with empire where you see this, because not everybody thinks the same way. For some people left is left from spawnpoint and for others it's on the minimap/map. Actually for reps it's both the same.

So i heard the snow/grass my first time playing on rep and i laughed, because... well you don't need it to be honest, left and right do just fine. But on empire i find it MORE useful because you are actually telling exactly where it is, no matter if they think different than you. It's like calling one lumber mill and the another Gold mine. It's just plainly better for communication's sake.

there are about 75 post on the same matter
and u gringos cant figure out how to do it right
is MAMI- PEPE and CARLITOS
ok?
and of course when u are guarding and need help just shout HELP HERE!

btw i always PVP with mai map opened cuz im a boss

The thing that most people don't realize is that people use snow/grass not because we don't know the difference between east/west or even left/right, we use it because our random queue teammates don't understand the differences.