Sorc/Sage Friendly Pull

There are way too many bads playing this game, who have NO BUSINESS playing pvp, much less whining about it.

Yeah, class abilities matter in PvP, and group comps matter too. Welcome to PvP scrubs, the devs should do NOTHING about this because that's the way PvP is.

Do the carebears in PvE go raid with an all tank op? Or 7 sorcs and 1 tank? Or 7 tanks and 1 sorc? No. Why? Because group comp matters in PvE. You need certain classes with certain tools to do certain things.

It's the same way in competitive PvP. You want certain classes on your team for their tools. The bads in this thread want to either nerf these tools, or nerf group comps somehow. You people suck and should not be playing mmos, CoD is more your speed. Get friends and make a good PvP group comp, and figure out what YOU can do to foil sage/sorc pull instead of asking the Devs to compensate for your bad play. Protip: it's real easy, KD sorc/sage from their perch on the bridge, or if you're Sin/PT pull them right back. I hope this helps.

Do the carebears in PvE go raid with an all tank op? Or 7 sorcs and 1 tank? Or 7 tanks and 1 sorc? No. Why? Because group comp matters in PvE. You need certain classes with certain tools to do certain things.

There are way too many bads playing this game, who have NO BUSINESS playing pvp, much less whining about it.

Yeah, class abilities matter in PvP, and group comps matter too. Welcome to PvP scrubs, the devs should do NOTHING about this because that's the way PvP is.

Do the carebears in PvE go raid with an all tank op? Or 7 sorcs and 1 tank? Or 7 tanks and 1 sorc? No. Why? Because group comp matters in PvE. You need certain classes with certain tools to do certain things.

It's the same way in competitive PvP. You want certain classes on your team for their tools. The bads in this thread want to either nerf these tools, or nerf group comps somehow. You people suck and should not be playing mmos, CoD is more your speed. Get friends and make a good PvP group comp, and figure out what YOU can do to foil sage/sorc pull instead of asking the Devs to compensate for your bad play. Protip: it's real easy, KD sorc/sage from their perch on the bridge, or if you're Sin/PT pull them right back. I hope this helps.

wise man talking
too few of them left in this game

7 sorcs and 1 tank is without question the ideal group for a raid. There is nothing missing from that group at all that any other class could offer. Our 16 man raid force just FINALLY got rid of our last non-sage healer and OMG things are so much easier now. Now we just need to get rid of all the stupid DPS classes that can't heal themselves or bubble themselves for damage phases and we would be perfect.

I assume from your post that you don't really understand the game well (seeing you resort to insulting people and using words like carebears instead of trying to make solid points) but I will at least ask; what's the raid tool you think some non-sorc class has to offer?

Sorcs have: Mez, single target damage, AoE dmg, single target burst healing, single target HOT, single target and self damage mitigation (bubble), combat rez, self mana regen, interrupt, a distance closing ablity, knock down (the only knock down with no cooldown) and stun.

There is not a single tool that is in the game for any other class that they do not have.

There are way too many bads playing this game, who have NO BUSINESS playing pvp, much less whining about it.

Yeah, class abilities matter in PvP, and group comps matter too. Welcome to PvP scrubs, the devs should do NOTHING about this because that's the way PvP is.

Do the carebears in PvE go raid with an all tank op? Or 7 sorcs and 1 tank? Or 7 tanks and 1 sorc? No. Why? Because group comp matters in PvE. You need certain classes with certain tools to do certain things.

It's the same way in competitive PvP. You want certain classes on your team for their tools. The bads in this thread want to either nerf these tools, or nerf group comps somehow. You people suck and should not be playing mmos, CoD is more your speed. Get friends and make a good PvP group comp, and figure out what YOU can do to foil sage/sorc pull instead of asking the Devs to compensate for your bad play. Protip: it's real easy, KD sorc/sage from their perch on the bridge, or if you're Sin/PT pull them right back. I hope this helps.

Funny thing, is that from my perspective, it took very little talking for Operative/Scoundrel nerf. Also note that it wasn't solely the opener that got nerfed, but damage across the board with the armor penetration nerf. On the other side, it's taking an awful lot of talking for any other class to receive a major nerf. The only other big thing we've seen so far is making it more difficult for Shadows/Assassins to change stances.

I'd love to see Huttball more based on teamwork and strategy, than certain abilities and classes being more favored due to mechanics of the warzone.

A 15 second debuff preventing chain rescues is hardly an unfair request, but it's clear that you're one of the many sorcs who can't see anything wrong with his 3 button layout.

1) there are mirror classes. both sides have access to the same ablities. specially if you group join. there is NO advantage that wouldnt be available for everyone.
2) friendly pull is a core ability of those classes. taking it away is just like taking away stealth from shadows or dual wield from sentinals. plain stupid.
3) if you lose cause of "chain pulls" you uttlery suck. its impossible to create a "line setup" for chain pulling unless the other team is total retarded. so easy to break that chain.
4) l2p

This is how I know you're bad without seeing you play. Instead of utilize the solution requiring skill, i.e. actually playing defense in HB and using a CC on the sorc/sages hanging out on the bridge, or preventing the friendly pull set up by ccing/killing the sage/sorc before they creep behind you, you would rather introduce a debuff so you can continue your mindless deathmatch dps spamming in the mid. Really really terrible.