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It's time to end the grass/snow days...

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It's time to end the grass/snow days...

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EternalFinality
03.07.2012 , 02:33 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Bullwrath View Post
On my server we just call right or left.

No one ever gets confused.
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Cripplers
03.07.2012 , 02:34 PM | #62
Void star drives me bonkers.

People will out left or right for help but sometimes it's Vica versa

Defenders call left for east, and right for west; yet on offense it's reversed. That what will get me confused when in the middle wether it be killing a healer or in the dead box waiting to be released.

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ColdLogic
03.07.2012 , 02:37 PM | #63
The positions are relative to your starting point, I.E. for repubs left is west, right is east... and it stays that way form a northern minimap view at all times.
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Evuke
03.07.2012 , 02:38 PM | #64
i just say east/west

I figure if people are too stupid to know orientation then they're not going to be of any help in pvp anyway.

i said that in /ops chat once after some kid was raging about calling it snow/grass, and the other 6 people in the team must have agreed with me because i got 6 mvp votes lol

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MartyrLXXVII
03.07.2012 , 02:40 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Cripplers View Post
Void star drives me bonkers.

People will out left or right for help but sometimes it's Vica versa

Defenders call left for east, and right for west; yet on offense it's reversed. That what will get me confused when in the middle wether it be killing a healer or in the dead box waiting to be released.
Based on spawn point. So when you are standing at spawn left is left.

Always play it that way, if someone ever claims the reference point is anything else they are wrong.

That's what makes it so easy, its completely intuitive and they never get reversed because left is left,... Non of this oh its west since I'm attacking, now its east because I'm defending, simply left.

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Jestunhi
03.07.2012 , 02:44 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by thanealpha View Post
This assumption is what leads to the confusion.

Because the "standard map orientation" implies to SOME players that forward is north. Well, it's not. It's only north according to Rep side. Imperials start off facing "south" according to your standard. That's not an intuitive thing for a lot of people, and frankly most people aren't watching their map as much as they are the field of play.

I think naming the locations would be the real fix.
How does what way they are facing effect "top of map = north"?

I'm fairly certain that neither the mini-map nor the main map change, therefore east is always to the east and west is always to the left.

However, as you pointed out, the way people are facing *does* change. That's why left / right is so useless.


If you think the map does change then please provide us with a screenie of the pub map and imp map so we can test the theory.
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Jestunhi's responses might be just about the the most asinine and pigheaded responses I've ever read on a forum.

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Jestunhi
03.07.2012 , 02:45 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by MartyrLXXVII View Post
Based on spawn point. So when you are standing at spawn left is left.

Always play it that way, if someone ever claims the reference point is anything else they are wrong.

That's what makes it so easy, its completely intuitive and they never get reversed because left is left,... Non of this oh its west since I'm attacking, now its east because I'm defending, simply left.
So your interpretation is "right" and anyone who disagrees is "wrong".

How did you come to this conclusion?
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Jestunhi's responses might be just about the the most asinine and pigheaded responses I've ever read on a forum.

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Armaso
03.07.2012 , 02:48 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Evuke View Post
i just say east/west

I figure if people are too stupid to know orientation then they're not going to be of any help in pvp anyway.

i said that in /ops chat once after some kid was raging about calling it snow/grass, and the other 6 people in the team must have agreed with me because i got 6 mvp votes lol
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mSum
03.07.2012 , 02:51 PM | #69
This thread is full of win!

I think everyone should get a Boy Scout handbook and work on their orienteering merit badge.

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MartyrLXXVII
03.07.2012 , 02:53 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Jestunhi View Post
So your interpretation is "right" and anyone who disagrees is "wrong".

How did you come to this conclusion?
I'm saying if you use left/right that is the way. But yes, any other interpretation if for left/right would be flat wrong. Because the only fixed point that is always the same on every map in every game is your spawn point. So if you use left/right with any other point of reference its subject to confusion.

No I'm not saying if you use east/west or landmarks you are wrong. Those work and are effective, however I do believe left/right is the most intuitive. Just have to keep the one reference point in mind, which should be common sense.