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Imbalance is KILLING this game

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Imbalance is KILLING this game

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NDiggy
03.07.2012 , 11:45 AM | #41
I think this is mostly a PvP server issue. People on PvE and RP servers may be seeing more balanced faction pops. All I know is when I logged in yesterday during prime time after the patch I was excited that Fleet was running so smoothly, then I looked at the number of people in fleet and there were only 25 and I realized that was why the game was running so smoothly. I logged over to my back up plan on the Empire side and there were 175 people on the Fleet and the game chugged just like it usually does for me.

This is honestly a deal breaker for me. I love the game, I'm excited for what they've done with 1.2, but their complete apathy toward the plight of us on these imbalanced servers doesn't make me want to keep giving them $15 a month. When you read their quotes or watch the replay its obvious they don't think its an issue and even if it is there is nothing they can do about it.

Keep in mind, even though the OP is mostly focused on PvP, faction imbalance affects all aspects of the game. I can deal with being shorthanded in PvP, what I can't handle is having a dead economy and no one to group with for PvE.
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Qoojo
03.07.2012 , 11:50 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by NightHawke View Post
OP is talking about the bug that allows one team to have 12 people and the other to have like 6. Or whatever.

I saw this last night and it was brutal. We had everyone on mid, while they had 2 on east and still outnumbered us on mid.

They were supposed to fix this bug. But it would seem not.

Also, warzones are not counting again for some.
Last night, the WZs were starting with a 8 vs. 5 and the WZ was terminating early. So with the imbalance, there was no point in queuing.


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AdmiralOnasi
03.07.2012 , 11:51 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Serbegorn View Post
The factions are more or less balanced population wise. The problem is that the average republic player (wuss) isn't into PVP as much as the average Sith player. You picked the losing side bub. QQ
"More or less balanced?" Are you on crack? Come to ANY PvP server and use the /who command. 95% of PvP servers have an obscene number of imperials and a pathetic number of Republics. My server is almost 3:1 during peak hours.

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Manigma
03.07.2012 , 11:53 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by NDiggy View Post
Honestly though, if Imperials were always stuck in Huttball wouldn't that be one big incentive to trade sides and play Republic if you're a big PvP'er? BW is basically removing one big reason Imps have to even play Replubic.
Actually that is a reason I don't want to play Republic! I love huttball and hate the other 2 warzones.

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AdmiralOnasi
03.07.2012 , 12:01 PM | #45
You know, OP, it's not just the fact there are way more imps than reps on many servers. It's that BioWare is now going to incentivize Empire even more by making all the warzones same faction. At this point, what reason is there to play Republic? With Empire you get: better, faster animations, more people to play with, same queue times, better looking gear, better looking fleet, better stories etc.

BioWare cares more about Empire players than Republic players, and they always have. I don't know how anyone can say otherwise anymore.

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Icedanno
03.07.2012 , 12:03 PM | #46
Clearly, and I mean this with all sincerity, the Devs must LOVE the imperial side. Im guessing that when the Devs log on to play, it's always as an Imperial.

You are right. EVERY delay issue, timing issue, holds, stuns, DoTs.. everything that is out of balance all favors the Imperial side.

Gear? Jedi's get brown robes. All trooper armor is white and looks the same. etc. etc. All advertisement was aimed at imperial players. and so on and so on...

PvP? If the Devs PvP at all, it's obviously on the Imperial side.

Just lost a WZ on the republic side, ( I know, big shock), 12th win in a row for the imperials in two days. The big deal about this one was it was the first WZ that actually spawned 8 on 8. EVERY other WZ has been 8 to 6 or 8 to less.

Anyone who says that server balance is not an issue is 100% going to be an Imperial player worried that Bioware might actually do something to rectify the problem and they won't be able to farm WZ at will to gear up.

Although from everything Bioware says, that's not a worry. It was more important to get colored crystals out then to actual try and fix the horribly broken PvP mess they have created.

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NDiggy
03.07.2012 , 12:09 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by AdmiralOnasi View Post
You know, OP, it's not just the fact there are way more imps than reps on many servers. It's that BioWare is now going to incentivize Empire even more by making all the warzones same faction. At this point, what reason is there to play Republic. With Empire you get: better, faster animations, more people to play with, same queue times, better looking gear, better looking fleet, better stories etc.

BioWare cares more about Empire players than Republic players, and they always have. I don't know how anyone can say otherwise anymore.
I agree that making most of the WZs able to play same faction vs same faction removes one of the few perks of Republic PvP and any incentive Empire players had to re-roll.

I don't think BW cares more about the Empire than the Republic. I just think they don't care at all. For them it simply isn't an issue. The guild summit made that painfully clear. Right now on Veela, there are certain times of the day you simply can't queue up for WZs as Republic or else you'll get steamrolled by one of the many Battlemaster pre-made groups from the Empire. It doesn't matter if I'm in an pre-made group or not, the Republic simply doesn't have nearly as many Battlemasters as the Empire.

Add in the fact that most games we start down 2-3 players and its easy to see why PvP is so difficult on Veela and many other pvp servers for Republic players.

I'll say it again, its not that BW cares more about Empire players than Republic players, its just that they don't care at all.
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Roechacca
03.07.2012 , 12:11 PM | #48
whats imbalanced? There's no class that's bothered me in pvp.

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notebene
03.07.2012 , 12:14 PM | #49
It's a bummer on a seesaw as well.
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NDiggy
03.07.2012 , 12:20 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Roechacca View Post
whats imbalanced? There's no class that's bothered me in pvp.
I'll leave you with another quote since the one in you're signature seems lost upon you. "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
A countryman between two lawyers is like a fish between two cats. -
Benjamin Franklin