Final blow to pvp.

You know... Once up on a time people played games to win. For fun.

Is it the new WoW generation that only play for personal and persistant benefits I wonder. That only queue up to a match of PvP if they get loot for it. That stop playing to win once they no longer think the effort is worth the extra loot reward...?

There was a time when people spend hours and hours playing for no other reason but to win and to have fun. There was a time this was true for online multiplayer computer games as well (counterstrike was a great example of this. People playing the same map over and over and over. Same gear. Same damage, health and armor each time the map restart)

I honestly does not think it is up to Bioware to "fix" this. I think it is up to the new WoW generation to step back and get a grip. You kids really need the developers of the game to hold your hand through the entire match in order to play to win. To have fun? Is it maybe too late. Do we have an entire generation that is lost. That will never play to win. to have fun. That always need more loot as a carrot to do... well.. anything.

Sad.

As soon as I realize it's a lost cause, I afk. GG Bioware.

I'm tired of games that feel like they need to 'reward' people for every little thing, including losing and being terrible. It creates crap like this.

The best PvP I've ever encountered never had any kind of material awards. It was for the sake of fighting the other faction, and destroying what the other faction created.


MMO PvP is dead.

If MMO PvP is dead it is 100% the players that killed it. Likewise the best PvP I ever played had next to no rewards, but we would have loved to have them. The problem isn't that there have been incentives created, the problem is that the PvP crowd is exactly the same as the PvE crowd now. PvP has just become one more way to chase your gear carrot.