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Meldwyn
03.07.2012 , 08:29 AM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by IIII-IIII-IIII View Post
Because there is no debate? I just found it amusing you tried to use the "straw man argument" statement only to pass off your own to support your position.

Pointing that out doesn't equate to engaging in a debate. Again, there is zero debate. That's what my first statement highlighted.

The only thing that is cute is your bloviating about your circle of friends enjoying X-Server and making references to failed corporate businesses as your reasoning. As if that's some profound sence of logic.
So, you needed to correct the error of my ways? I get it now. You come across as that smart **(you know what) that likes to jump in and condescend on people's opinions then not respond to anything said afterward because you might be caught in an uncomfortable situation having to prove your point... which would seem to indicate you have none.

Thanks for the clarification. Not the smartest approach if you want to be viewed as having some clear thoughts on a subject. Hey, I am not beyond learning something new, but you never provide any meat to actually consider. You did, however, give me great insight in to who you are...
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IIII-IIII-IIII
03.07.2012 , 08:37 AM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by Meldwyn View Post
then not respond to anything said afterward because you might be caught in an uncomfortable situation having to prove your point... which would seem to indicate you have none.
There's literally zero point to prove. The proof is in the pudding and the pudding is no X-server was implemented.

Anything beyond that was allowing access to line by line attempt to dissect how I/many/Bioware come to the conclusion that your opinion is incorrect.
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ferroz
03.07.2012 , 08:37 AM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by IIII-IIII-IIII View Post
Ah, another person that wants to regurgitate the tired debate of in favor/opposed to X-Server LFG.
Tap dancing like this just makes it look like you can't produce a valid argument.

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IIII-IIII-IIII
03.07.2012 , 08:38 AM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
Tap dancing like this just makes it look like you can't produce a valid argument.
People usually dance when their happy. You're correct. In this case, I'm happy with Biowares decision.

Tap dancing till the sun comes up, in fact.
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ferroz
03.07.2012 , 08:40 AM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by IIII-IIII-IIII View Post
There's literally zero point to prove.
Certainly there is; that is the thread topic, after all...

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IIII-IIII-IIII
03.07.2012 , 08:43 AM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
Certainly there is; that is the thread topic, after all...
You're correct....when the thread was originally made pre-decision. Now? It's merely an informative medium of what result took place.

At least that's my opinion since there is no further debating purpose other than those who didn't get their way. Frustrating as that may be...no point.
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celebnaur
03.07.2012 , 08:46 AM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by TJHarmon View Post
I don't care or believe about that whole "it killed the community" ****. I don't want it because I have absolutely no interest in playing with someone who I will NEVER *********** see or play with again. If my friends aren't on, I want to play with potential new friends/guildies, not some 15 year old ******* who are gonna come in and need on every last piece of gear for every single one of their companions or their "vendor set".
I don't believe in denying people the right to choose. Just because you don't want a LFG system put in does not mean you should deny other people the right for one. The only people who will use it are the people who WANT TO use a LFG system. IF you think less people will be wanting to group with you because of it, well I would say they are already stopping people to have a right to their choice to use it, I would not want to game with people who couldn't respect peoples choice, and there are a LOT of people who want this cross-server system. If you don't LIKE the system, join a GUILD. While I played WoW, I still did tons of heroics and instences with people from my server and from my guild. I would still see people LFG on wow as well. What was awesome is that I had a higher chance of people wanting to be friends, since it was more unique to see someone from my server as well using the cross -region LFG. You just have to have it so it shows what server your from.

It will not matter if there is no LFG system, ether way people will still have the option to simplly spam on general or looking for group channel. All you guys are doing is denying people who want to use a LFG system from using one. In other words your trying to do, Controlling their choice and prevent people from having that option. Which is all it is and will be, another OPTION. Not the only one.

Not only that but I don't think they will have a cross-region LFG for anything but warzones and flashpoints. People would still have to LFG with specific "planet side" heroics.

I also have to say, it would be cool to have what they have in WoW with real ID, being able to invite your REAL ID friends over to help you do a heroic, regardless of realm they are on.

p.s. - pardon any grammer, missing words, or typing mistakes. :S

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Meldwyn
03.07.2012 , 08:51 AM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by IIII-IIII-IIII View Post
your opinion is incorrect.
This is what I am trying to get to the bottom of... You think my opinion is incorrect (how my opinion can be incorrect is a little dubious, but I will play along), so I am asking for evidence to the contrary.

Please, for the love of all that is good, try to stick to the topic and not veer off in to a nose dive of insults or platitudes (this might prove difficult, but I still have faith in you). If this can't be done, just don't respond. We can end it here.
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IIII-IIII-IIII
03.07.2012 , 08:56 AM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by Meldwyn View Post
but I will play along), so I am asking for evidence to the contrary.
So, you're honestly trying to convey that somehow a differing opinion, one you've read countless times, is somehow...magically....suddenly....this time going to change your perception/opinion/view?

That's funny.
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Devlonir
03.07.2012 , 08:58 AM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by chaosdefined View Post
Ok, could have just noted that I was exaggerating the info a little and to note down the populations during peak times. It was the "stop spreading lies." part that was a little uncalled for.

But at least we're agreeing on a solution to the problem regardless of all that.
I apologize for the hard words, but I choose to use them simply because the low pop of EU servers is a provable untrue argument I have heard way too many times. And every new mention of it, even if meant as exaggeration, just adds to the myth of EU servers being near empty when they are not.

They often also get supported by USA players who only see our server status during their primetimes, when all of our players will be asleep or working, and this will only strengthen the clearly false statement of EU servers being low population.

It was probably too harsh to point it towards you, but it is a major annoyance for me to read this specific untrue statement. To state the actual fact: 48 EU servers are on Standard as of this writing, which is at least 4 hours before the 8-11 pm peek hours of CET/GMT timezones.


Back to your point: Of course, one can only agree with the fact that single server LFG needs healthy sized server populations to thrive, even if it means queues. I mean: If a 15 minute queue into the server means I get a quicker queue when I use an LFG tool any rational person will gladly go into the Full server for the shorted LFG queue times.
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