No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

This is a good point actually. My guild in WoW has grown sence the implementation of the "Looking for Raid" tool. Several of us get together and que up using it and enjoy the runs and congratulate each other on gear roll wins, etc. The nice thing about it is...we can do it when we want to and have the time. And no need to worry about a point system, etc. The ignore list works well for those you donot wish to run with again. One of the best features ever added to WoW was the "Looking for Group" tool.

The time i truly enjoyed it was more TBC era, so shattrath, but same concept. I loved that LFG system because you could queue for 3 dungeons you wanted to do, be seen in an "lfg pool" so to speak, and you go about your business, you didn't have to spam trade, but you could.

so true. If they allowed cross server "do not group me with" options, that would be great. Just knowing that it exists may be enough for people to not be clowns.

Because there is no debate? I just found it amusing you tried to use the "straw man argument" statement only to pass off your own to support your position.

Pointing that out doesn't equate to engaging in a debate. Again, there is zero debate. That's what my first statement highlighted.

The only thing that is cute is your bloviating about your circle of friends enjoying X-Server and making references to failed corporate businesses as your reasoning. As if that's some profound sence of logic.

All they would need to do is what Blizz did with thier ignore feature. Anyone you put on your ignore list, you will never be qued with them again in a looking for group tool.

Ok, could have just noted that I was exaggerating the info a little and to note down the populations during peak times. It was the "stop spreading lies." part that was a little uncalled for.

But at least we're agreeing on a solution to the problem regardless of all that.

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That's not a straw man argument; I'm guessing that you don't actually know what that term means.

What you've quoted there is someone pointing out contradictory anecdotal evidence; it's a counter argument to other anecdotal evidence, rather than a stand alone argument.

A straw man is where you mis-characterize someone's argument (to something that's easy to refute), argue against the fake version, refute it, and then claim that disproves someone's original point.

Cool, me too. That's not really all that relevant to the question though.

If you want to evaluate the effect of WoW's lfg tool, you need to examine the time immediately before the lfd tool's release, and then be able to look for changes in the community that were strictly caused by the tools existence.

The only time the pre-wow stuff is useful is when you can point out the fact that the behaviors that people attribute to the lfd tool did in fact exist with the same kind of frequency even in other games. That's my experience, with EQ: There were far more actual problem people back then, if you actually pugged; most people didn't (except on the kunark express), sticking in guild, because of how bad pug groups were.

interesting that you don't actually answer his question, and just throw out random insults here...

When people do that, they're generally trying to hide the fact that they don't have a valid response and know it.

it works the same in rift, no?

The day lfg x server comes in is the day me and alot of other people will leave for good there is reasons we quit wow.

On the other hand people will leave if we don't get one because of no groups available.

Easy thing is to merge servers but this doesnt look good for the game.

So merge servers or loose alot of people.

Ah, another person that wants to regurgitate the tired debate of in favor/opposed to X-Server LFG.

Sorry, I debated that for pages pre-release. There is literally zero justification to waste the amount of time it takes only to end at the same point: neither side agreeing.

You can take that however you'd like. How you should take it though is I don't value you enough to play that back and forth.

In fact, gathering from your long-winded nature, I imagine we've already had this debate as I had no problem going line by line in kind which has proven time and time again to be a pointless exercise.

Our side was catered to. End of debate. It's that painfully simple (for most).