No Cross Realm LFG tool please!

It would indeed be a tragedy if BioWare were to put a facility in the game that let me actually play the game instead of standing around Fleet for hours on end waiting to play the game.

/sarcasm

I've just stopped by to put my 2 credits in the matter. I know this isn't popular and I will not say I'm correct. This is based upon my observations, just my opinion. I'm not going to say I'm right nor that everyone else is wrong. That kind of blanket hyperbole just makes people more likely to shut down.

I had played WoW from March of '05 til October of '11. Cross server-LFG is one of the big reasons why I left the game. It seemed to be a license to people to act in horrendous ways. I had noticed that people play a lot nicer if they are all on the same realm. For example, there was a guild back in the day that had a ton of ninja looters and gold farmers. Since this was before X-LFG, everyone on the server knew who they were and stayed away from them. I'm not saying people are incapable of being civil, but they seem to be more rude and arrogant if they aren't on the same server.

In my opinion, X-LFG ruined any sense of community from my server. And before someone else says something, there was a community on each server.

In any case, I hope everyone can come to some middle ground on the matter. I'm having fun w/ the game. I don't want to see that go away. Even though I'm very opposed to X-LFG, I can certainly see why some posters would want this. If anyone can come up with a valid compromise, I'd read and judge with an open mind.

spammming LF1M HEALER THEN G2G MUST BE GEARED NO BH QUICK RUN over and over and over again is surely a sign of a solid community.

especialyl when actuall chatter on the fleet is told to go die because it's ruining the visibility of LFG spam.


the only community that exists on my server happens outside of prime time when there's zero hope of getting a group together.

Sadly, it wasn't always this way( for WoW at least, in the over 6 yrs I played.) People would actually take the time to talk to each other, whereas once X-LFG was in, communication of all kinds stopped.


Now, I know some people want X-LFG. I'm not one of those people, but I can understand. Is there any middle ground that can be discussed?

I wanted to add that this particular poster had an excellent point against X-LFG:


"No question about it, LFD was a breakthrough in the MMO field which made life a lot easier, etc etc etc. But this system of faceless, anonymous, infinite streams of players grinding out instances as impersonally as possible devalues the content and deteriorates the quality of inter-player interactions. Just search for "tank abuse, healer abuse, LFD abuse, votekick" or anything along those lines and you see what I mean. This is something that is here to stay I am aware, so there's no point complaining about it...still, worth pointing out."

The problem is, too many people blame the tool and not the users.

Was it the LFG Tool that made that player give you abuse and act like a dick to you?
Was it the LFG Tool that made that player ninja an item?
Was it the LFG Tool that made that player terrible at their class?

No.

You can give a man a stick, he could use it to make a fire to keep himself warm or he could wander around smacking people in the face with it.

Just because people misuse a tool does not mean that it was the fault of the tool.

Also just to note, in the very few Flashpoints I've managed to get a group for whilst levelling here, nobody spoke a bloody word the entire way through despite my efforts to be sociable.

On WoW when the LFD tool was around, I actually met my guild through it and joined them because we had such a fun time and they were so sociable. I transferred server and had some of the best times with them.

Well the simple answer is for the people that say nay to cross server LFG tool, they dont have to use it they can continue to shout out in local chat if they really want too?

I don't know what server you played on, but I started on Echo Isles in late 2006 and played on Moon Guard from 2008 until late last year when I finally had it with Cataclysm, and I can tell you that is utter crap. I had no problem finding conversation, in-depth RP (Part of one of the largest RP guilds Horde side at the time, as well as one of the largest Alliance Guilds.)

LFG made the instances easier and more accessable to people who did not belong to a raiding guild, or did not raid. I didn't have many problems at all with Wrath, and even Cataclysm's problems cleared up once people learned the instance fights, and Blizzard fixed the tanking mechanics.

X-LFG was a god-send for low-population realms, and realms with massive population imbalances. It allowed people to do their weekly dungeon quotas without having to set and spam in LFG, and deal with endless strings of elitists gearchecking them for basic instances. (O, u dont have Ulduar 25? No Heroic Nexus for you!)

The game is already having MAJOR issues with mid-to-high level players finding heroic and flashpoint groups. The only other way to solve this would be to cross-link all the servers in a fashion similar to EVE Online, and that's a logistical and technical impossibility.

I pay 15 dollars a month for a game to have fun. Let me re-interate that point to you. I do not pay that 15 dollars to endlessly min-max in hopes I can get a group, sacrifice my professional life to raid so I will be able to clear something in 14 minutes instead of 20, and deal with snobby, patience-less elitists who think a single failure is a reason to abandon a group. I also don't consider it fun to set on Carrack Station and endlessly spam for the hope of getting a group.

Funny, I've had the exact opposite experience. Most of the people I've done FPs with were very social, polite and helpful, with a great sense of humor. Please let me repeat: I'm not saying my opinion is correct. It based off of a year or so of X-LFG

I'm glad you had a good experience with the LFD. No sarcasm; I'm being sincere. However, I think you may be in the minority.

The thing I haven't seen much of in these threads(I've read them all), is a compromise. Since I don't think the pro X-LFG and anti X-LFG will ever agree, what do you think some alternatives could be?

Not use the LFG button if it offends your senses so? Just a suggestion. Those of us on low-population sides on our servers should not be forced to roll an Imp or Pub to be able to get a group.

That is a much simpler solution that fighting tooth and nail to keep something out that would keep players attracted to the game and interested.