Dungeon Finder Needed Badly

There is nothing stopping a person sitting on a low population server to move to a higher population server. These people need to stop crying it takes what 80 to 100 hours to level? Play 4 hours a day for 25 days, now you are level 50. They even are planing to make leveling easier with the legacy system. People need to stop using personal choice as a crutch for why they need somebody else to take the responsibility for it.

Good to see you are humble in victory. And as so many have said, how the **** was it my "choice"/mistake going to a low pop server? Why the **** would I start a new toon on a new server and lose all of my legacy? Now if they merge servers....lolololololol.

If you choose (Go into the server list pick out a low population server and create a character) that is your own fault. Not Biowares, Not some random guy on another server, it is your actions that did it.

I am up for Server Mergers, however I have known more and more people that have come to the server I am on and leveled up because their servers were dead. Just about all of them CHOOSE that server they were on, it was not forced upon them. Yea a few went there via the guild deal and their guilds failed. (Often times because they were a handful of players) I do feel for them however It does not take months of playing time like Vanilla WoW did or other games like DDO to hit max level. It does not really take that long, I have 1 person in the guild that has 3 level 50s and almost a 4th now. He plays about 10 to 20 hours a week.

If a person does not want to start new they will either merge servers or they can wait for server transfers.

Do..do you people know how to make friends in game?
How difficult is that? How little social skills do you have to have?

You find a group INSTANTLY if you make friends. If everyone can dungeon finder to auto-queue, then no one makes friends in game. They just stay in their little real life circle. Or worse. You get auto-grouped with bad players. If its cross server, how do you even learn who is good and who isn't?

You people are insane. And I don't care how many 'substantial' argument you conjure from thin air, the premise of a cross-server auto lfg tool is fundamentally unsound, even if it isn't provably so through the raw data. Community isn't measurable through raw data. It is something that is experienced, believe it or not. You can't all be THIS anti-social...

Wait. Its an internet forum.
nevermind.

A dungeon finder is needed for those of us that can't play on a set schedule, and sign on whenever we're able, which is not necessarily when our friends are on and able to group up. I just wasted an hour and a half in the fleet trying to find a group, and there were 160 people in the fleet (and not one that wanted to heal a HM). So please, put a group finder in the game so that when those of with limited time sign-on we can actually do something worthwhile instead of trying to find a group.

that's ******** becouse when you started the game the most servers where pretty full
but they left the game for some reason.
Becouse the endgame of grinding couple daily's scaring people of.
The just need 2 merge servers otherwise this won't last a year.

It's not really about being social. The game is social. I have a guild. I have friends... I have ppl that I talk to every day.

That being said. I pay 15+ dollars a month to "play" this game. I play games like this for the instances and raids. The social aspects are secondary. If I want to be social, I'll go out for the night. I have a limited amount of time to play this game for which I pay and it would go a LONG way towards me continuing to pay to play this game if I did not have to waste what little time I have in game searching for people to run things with.


When there is a grand total of 81 people ( from what I've been hearing that might actually be a high number) of all levels in fleet during peak hours... the chances of finding a full group at the times I am available to run anything are pretty slim.


They need to address this and fairly quickly because I'm sure I'm not the only one who has no desire to waste my time and my money much longer.

It makes no sense that one would argue the WoW system ruined the community. It was a great tool (LFR is another discussion) that opened up an aspect of the game that wasn't as generally open to the entire community and gave everyone a chance to see the content.


Perhaps one should think of what part of society is introduced into a community when the ranks of that community swell to 12 million people. Perhaps when a community grows to that size the cross section of society it reflects becomes much more inclusive and when you have that large of a cross section, perhaps you have alot more of the people many of us entered this community in the first place to avoid.

I do not think we should say a "tool" is a bad idea based on a false premise. You always have the option not to use it, but if something is not done to make access to this content easier, you will see people look for other options for their entertainment dollars.The bottom line is those of you who feel this will "corrupt the community" and are at times almost militantly against an LFG tool in order to preserve some imaginary concept of "integrity in the community" maybe a small majority on these forums but in the actual gaming community you are a VAST minority. When this is said and done, this game is going to live and die by the decisions BW makes about gameplay and if people start feeling their access to content is being limited by no fault of their own (other than being responsible members of society, their families and their communities), those people are going to spend their money elsewhere. Then see what happens to your community. Nerdrage aside, it really is that simple.

Its hardly imaginary.
Forcing people to actually communicate with people in the game, and form bonds with other players. Forcing them to learn who does what, when, and why, allows a community to form. Forces it to form by the sheer physical reality of it.

The fact that you are unable to understand this is a strange thing to me. Would you have made the friends you made in real life if some part of reality hadn't forced you to communicate on some level, whether that was school projects, relatives, etc. Or even on a more basic level, and a level that is more directly related to the issue at hand, you were in whatever capacity force to speak to those soon-to-be friends. With a cross-server lfg tool, or any kind of automatic grouping system, this basic requirement of communication is not required. You can silently group, silently finish, and silently leave. There is no discover in terms of what roles that person can fill, in terms of someone you know who can fill that empty spot, etc. Without that communication, the community would suffer. Its a problem in our society even today, where people refuse to communicate with each other as much as they were once forced to. I would prefer it not enter the already anti-social environment of the MMO.

The people who complain that they constantly have to 'lfg' in general for any group are very simply doing it wrong. Run a few times, lfg in general a few times, and after that you should have a list of people who are around your level, who can run with you if they are online. You simply have to whisper them. Its not difficult. Just reach outside your circle.

If you are not willing to put in the social effort in a social game, you are free to play single player games, or wait until your friends are all online at the same time so you can play together. Its as simple as that. Frankly it bothers me that people are essentially threatening Bioware with a lost subscription because they are not giving you the ability to not fully participate in the game they made, instead wanting to only experience the content and move on.

lol

Bioware keeps listening to bad arguments like this and that's why finding groups is such a pain in the butt right now. I've already cancelled my sub due to lack of a proper tool and others will too until BW realizes the above post is filled with nothing but assumptions and unsubstantiated claims. The idea that not having a LFG tool will force players to make internet friends is foolish.

I rest my case. As I said, and as will ALWAYS remain true... the "social skills" argument is and will ultimately prove irrelevant. Social skill do not pay subscription fees and while I appreciate the irony of a MMO player chiding others about social graces, the simple fact remains that dollars will decide this. When EA/BW sends their quarterly reports to their investors stating that sub numbers are down due to the fact there are so many holes in this game, those same investors can take solace in the fact that those that actually remain have increased their social skills. Meanwhile... those that have responsibilities in the real world and are forced to be ECONOMICAL WITH THEIR TIME IN GAME have moved on to a media that allows them to use the time they do have in a way that they enjoy. So please, don't think for a minute when the decision about this is made, that someone in that room is actually going to speak up and say" but if they would just talk to each other and make friends...." It just doesn't work that way and logic like that will be why a game with such great potential, folds.