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Vanguard/Powertech Most OP class in the game

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Vanguard/Powertech Most OP class in the game

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Kabaal
03.05.2012 , 11:22 AM | #61
Both Juggernauts and Marauders have better defensive cooldowns than PT's, Jugg does need to somewhat gimp itself to get it's good one though. 40% mit to everything.

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biowareftw
03.05.2012 , 11:35 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Agenteusa View Post
I agree Marauders and Assassins give a fair fight to Pyro PTīs. I do not agree a Sniper does.

But donīt forget it also comes from personal skill. People just expect to roll a class and to own everyone and do insane dmg without learning to play the class...oh wait... Trooper comes to mind.

@OP

Yes, Pyro PTīs are good, but you have to know how to play them (as most classes) and we are quite squishy as aside from the shield that reduces dmg by 25% we have nothing ,unless we sacrifice dps.

I say we arenīt OP because we really need to be in the fray to be able to put up great dmg (a thing sorcs/cons and mercs/comms dont) so we are vulnerable if we get focused at least imo.

But yeah to sum it up RS is great lol
Rail shot is a ranged attack, not a tech attack. This might help some sniper/slingers out.
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Agenteusa
03.05.2012 , 11:45 AM | #63
Quote:
Rail shot is a ranged attack, not a tech attack. This might help some sniper/slingers out.
Well when Iīm facing a Sniper or any ranged class for that matter Iīm always glued to them circling them so they canīt use some abilities.

So Iīm not fighting a ranged battle with him which I would obviously lose :P

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Nehmin
03.05.2012 , 11:55 AM | #64
Games are not balanced for 1v1...
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Agenteusa
03.05.2012 , 12:18 PM | #65
Sometimes it happens. Thatīs why thereīs an Assassin medal :P

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SeloDaoC
03.05.2012 , 12:19 PM | #66
Pyrotechs/Assaults are the new FOTM class, actualy its been for a couple of months now.
I see alot more of them then Merc/Commandos on my server actually.
Its a very easy class to play and very mobile while still dishing out 400k+ damage per warzone easily.

I agree the damage should be brought down quite a bit, considering all the other utilities they have. They pretty much have all skills a commando have, except grav round and demolition round, plus grapple, shields, interupts, higher damage, more mobility.

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Jestunhi
03.05.2012 , 12:22 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Agenteusa View Post
I agree Marauders and Assassins give a fair fight to Pyro PTīs. I do not agree a Sniper does.
A well specced, CC-immune sniper in cover that makes good use of his knockbacks & snares can be very hard for a char that needs to be within 4m to perform best and can't leap or use CC to break cover and then leap (or walk towards them while they are stunned).

It's the combination of the right skill points and abilities that make them good against powertechs, a sniper with some or none of these things specced will be much worse off against a PT.
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exphryl
03.05.2012 , 12:25 PM | #68
Well Played Assassin and Marauder > Well Played PT.

Problem is the % of well played sins/maras are so few and far between it means I can usually just wreak havoc on the other team. (Which is funny on my server, I have gotten so many hate tells for the damage I do from people and guilds i STILL can just shoot away without a single person attacking me).

Fun fact. The guy that can kill you in under 8 seconds you may want to kill before you focus somebody else.....he is beyond squishy, don't let that heavy armor fool you..

EDIT: to the guy that posted below, I'm guessing he's running a tank hybrid.

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Scoobings
03.05.2012 , 12:25 PM | #69
The ranged damage capabilities are pretty meh if you spec. into charge. If you have charge, you don't have thermal det, which cuts your ranged damage by quite a bit.

As far as weaknesses, I would say (with my spec) anything you can't go toe to toe with. I have a really hard time with snipers (cover really screws over powertechs quite a bit, can't charge or pull to close range after they push you back and snare you and cover mitegates rail shot) and I have a hard time with tank assassins. They just have more survivability than me.

All in all though, I agree with your assessment. Powertechs are a pretty great class, and I'm pretty sure the only reason we don't have more nerf threads is because we aren't as flash and we don't pull big numbers. Power techs don't ever hit for over 3.5k (unless it's thermal det, which I don't have) but we have good consistent damage to make up for it. We're certainly nothing to sneeze at that's for sure.
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Jestunhi
03.05.2012 , 12:29 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Scoobings View Post
cover really screws over powertechs quite a bit, can't charge or pull to close range after they push you back and snare you and cover mitegates rail shot
Unless they have the big CC immune cover you can use electro dart to break cover then grapple / leap.

I love doing this to snipers who think they setup in a good position above us.
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