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Dungeon Finder Needed Badly


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Akash
03.04.2012 , 10:26 AM | #781
You know, I want to play this game. I really do. I love the Star Wars universe, I like the class design for the most part, the graphics are acceptable.

But here's the thing. I can hop on this game and go to the fleet and start spamming LFG, or perhaps wait for LFG to ask for a tank or dps, as I run a Sniper and an Assassin Tank, and if I'm lucky I can get going in 30 minutes or so, if not it seriously might take an hour or two.

Or I can hop on Rift and use their cross-server LFG dungeon tool, and have completed 2-3 instances in the time it might take me to find one here.

No matter how much I love the Star Wars universe or how much I want to immerse myself in that world for a while, I find myself increasingly losing patience trying to find a group through EQ1-era spam LFG, and instead choosing to go play a game with lore I enjoy much less but has a modern day design and actually lets me hop on and start playing the game instead of sitting around waiting.

I really want this game to succeed. But developers have to realize the EQ1 style community just doesn't work anymore. The game has to join the modern era.
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Orisai
03.04.2012 , 10:40 AM | #782
It happens today that there are no people doing the leveling FPs. All the LFG spam we see now is for HMs because people prefer to hit 50 before doing anything else except Black Talon when they are lvl 10.
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Kehiss
03.04.2012 , 11:02 AM | #783
It's a simple matter really. Does the game survive or not? That's it. I'm not alone in seriously considering giving up due to the difficulty (and the resulting boredom) of finding groups, especially if playing Imperial where there seem to be far fewer people. This last problem not helped by the fact that people are leaving every day to start Rep. characters. It's a vicious circle, and it was VERY short sighted not to have seen it coming.

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nytegaunt
03.04.2012 , 06:03 PM | #784
I'll add my voice as well to this. I really enjoy the game, and I want to experience the content and the storytelling that is such a huge selling-point for this game. Unfortunately with my level 50 character I've hit a roadblock with the flashpoints. I'm not willing to sit around for an hour or more trying to form a group or waiting for one to form, so I've been missing out on the higher-level flashpoints (basically Red Reaper and up). I'm not much of a guild person (and my current one has all but disbanded) so at this point, as a stop-gap measure, I've largely given up and focus instead on leveling an alt.

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Tifadore
03.05.2012 , 05:46 AM | #785
Quote: Originally Posted by Kehiss View Post
It's a simple matter really. Does the game survive or not? That's it. I'm not alone in seriously considering giving up due to the difficulty (and the resulting boredom) of finding groups, especially if playing Imperial where there seem to be far fewer people. This last problem not helped by the fact that people are leaving every day to start Rep. characters. It's a vicious circle, and it was VERY short sighted not to have seen it coming.
Wow, that's like the polar opposite of my server, Republic side is dead, and Empire is 3 times the amount of Republic. It just states that it should be cross server then, as the issue is not simular for all servers. I actually turned in the towel to join Empire because of this, as it seems to be much easier to get groups here... I guess I'll find out for real once I hit 50. :O

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Glyptodon
03.05.2012 , 11:45 AM | #786
I think that a LFG system is necessary. I'm a release date veteran of WoW. I stopped playing for a year because my guild fell apart, I couldn't find groups to do what I wanted. When I came back to WoW and saw the new LFG system they installed, I loved it. I could finally find groups to do dungeons regardless of who was on in my guild.

I don't think the inclination to be a jerk or not is effected by whether you're on the same server as the other person. Courteous players will be courteous; jerks will be jerks.

Right now, on my server, there might be 50 people in the Republic Fleet at any given time. Even with a LFG chat channel, you'll be luckily to wait less than an hour to try to find a group. Finding the fourth member is always the worst, and a lot of people will drop group before the group is filled, starting the process all over. I never did a FP before level 50 because my time was better spent questing than it was looking for a FP group.

There is no choice in who you group with the way it is now. Unless you're in a guild with people to run FPs and HMs, you don't have a choice in who you run with. It takes so long to find a group, that many people just take whoever whispers them. It wouldn't be any different with a LFG system that randomly matches people based on role, other than a LFG system would be faster, especially if it were cross-server.

A LFG system also wouldn't be to the detriment of people who don't want it. If someone is picky about with whom they group or just don't like the LFG system, they don't need to use it. I don't really think it will dramatically change things for the worst. If you have to wait an hour to get a group and it falls apart, it's easy to get frustrated and leave. If you wait 30 seconds for a group and it falls apart, it's a lot easier to just hop back in the queue and try it again.

I know people are cancelling their subscriptions because it's too hard to get a group together to do FPs. As much as I hate comparing this game to WoW, the LFG system in WoW is actually very well done. I never had any complaints with the system, and it was something that kept me in the game longer than I may have otherwise stayed. I always knew I would be able to get a group.

I know that a LFG system for FPs and HM FPs is top on my wishlist and the wishlist of a lot of the people with whom I play. I don't think it's necessary for Regular Ops, and I don't think there should be one for HM Ops, but having it for FPs and HM FPs will (1) make it easier to find groups to gear up at level 50 and (2) make people more likely to run the lower level FPs while leveling, rather than just soloing them at 50 to unlock the HM.
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SWToRBurns
03.05.2012 , 11:58 AM | #787
Quote: Originally Posted by Akirator View Post
And unless you're on a very low pop server spamming would not be necessary if people used the lfg system we have. It might not be as fast as 1-click auto-teleport tool, but it's not like the system is unable to get you a group, its the community that makes you unable to get a group with it.
^ this, I hae never seen as much gross lazyness and anti-social ************ about how people need a one-click welfare epic tool than in this thread.

I started WoW in Late Wrath and the LFD tool was proobably the least fun thing I did with my year+ in that game. Trolls, people who just wanted to beeline to the end because this was their 15 toon leveling/gearing up, people who had no idea how to play their class correctly, people who intentionally tanked runs because they didn't get loot they wanted, entire guild groups of 4 that would leave after the first boss didnt drop what they wanted, you get the point.

I don't think once I made an aquaintence or added a person to my friend list because of a successful LFD run, it was just needless grind for gear to be able to raid, and was arduous.

This game makes you talk to people, and maybe instead of just spamming "LFG", try adding some spice to your spam, people will see something out of the norm, and just maybe, decide you look like a fun person to do stuff with. It's really not that hard.


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Akash
03.05.2012 , 12:07 PM | #788
Quote: Originally Posted by SWToRBurns View Post
^ this, I hae never seen as much gross lazyness and anti-social ************ about how people need a one-click welfare epic tool than in this thread.

I started WoW in Late Wrath and the LFD tool was proobably the least fun thing I did with my year+ in that game. Trolls, people who just wanted to beeline to the end because this was their 15 toon leveling/gearing up, people who had no idea how to play their class correctly, people who intentionally tanked runs because they didn't get loot they wanted, entire guild groups of 4 that would leave after the first boss didnt drop what they wanted, you get the point.

I don't think once I made an aquaintence or added a person to my friend list because of a successful LFD run, it was just needless grind for gear to be able to raid, and was arduous.

This game makes you talk to people, and maybe instead of just spamming "LFG", try adding some spice to your spam, people will see something out of the norm, and just maybe, decide you look like a fun person to do stuff with. It's really not that hard.


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Doesn't work like that. The industry has moved on.
Memnon - 50 Commando ~ Untagonis - 50 Juggs
Adepta - 50 Sniper ~ Khatovar - 50 Sin ~ Varpaal - Mid level Sin
Antagonis - Mid level Operative ~ Jenize - Mid level Sentinel
Osanobua - Mid level Merc ~ Ka'Tahar - Mid level Juggs

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Neulwen
03.05.2012 , 01:24 PM | #789
I'm also strongly wanting a LFG tool for FPs and OPs. Cross-server would be even better.

Lately I've mostly just been doing WZs because finding groups for anything else is just so hard in comparison.

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Nitewolfe
03.05.2012 , 01:46 PM | #790
Quote: Originally Posted by SWToRBurns View Post
^ this, I hae never seen as much gross lazyness and anti-social ************ about how people need a one-click welfare epic tool than in this thread.

I started WoW in Late Wrath and the LFD tool was proobably the least fun thing I did with my year+ in that game. Trolls, people who just wanted to beeline to the end because this was their 15 toon leveling/gearing up, people who had no idea how to play their class correctly, people who intentionally tanked runs because they didn't get loot they wanted, entire guild groups of 4 that would leave after the first boss didnt drop what they wanted, you get the point.

I don't think once I made an aquaintence or added a person to my friend list because of a successful LFD run, it was just needless grind for gear to be able to raid, and was arduous.

This game makes you talk to people, and maybe instead of just spamming "LFG", try adding some spice to your spam, people will see something out of the norm, and just maybe, decide you look like a fun person to do stuff with. It's really not that hard.


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Spamming chat for groups is old school next youll be saying how you walked both ways uphill in the snow to school!

Ill counter your wow experience with my own thousands of cross lfd runs where they were almost all good experiences and my real id friends list is full of people i meet from cross server!